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Offline dickreuter

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Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
on: May 19, 2006, 10:27:42 PM
I'm looking for some conceptual advice for playing this piece. I know that there are several passages which are not clean yet and I'm working on that, but I especially hope to get some advice how to play the arpeggios better.

Any help is appreciated. Many thanks
Nicolas
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Offline pianistimo

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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #1 on: May 19, 2006, 11:27:41 PM
sounds like you're playing on a play piano and the last chord of each run at the beginning seems it will shatter the thing.  you need a bose or steinway.  the treble on that piano is toyish.  it doesn't match your playing. 

i lik eyour passion.  aren't there a few wrong notes right before the transition to major keys.  why do you slow down there so much?  oh well, i like what you are doing musically - it's jsut all a bit too loud.  maybe it's the recording. 

you are crashy at the end even more than at the beginning.  i would 'pull' back dynamically - but not speed-wise.  make your forte and double forte distinguishable.  lighten up in the right hand when you have fast passages and you'll find the fast notes really easy to play.

you're a beethovenian.  i think you'll go far.  that's in my humble opinion  (and i'm a beethoven lover, too).  say, i was reading a book on project gutenberg you might enjoy.  will try to get the title.  it goes into beethoven's life.

i thought you would literally kill the piano with those last two chords.  you obviously have strength.  no need to prove this to anyone.  i think you have it - now just pull back a little.  make your hands a little more flat and  play same speed - dynamics more contrasted (all the shadings - and consistency with them as you have with your speed).

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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #2 on: May 19, 2006, 11:32:11 PM
maybe i interpret beethoven strangely, but this piece doesn't remind me so much of fervent passions as an insect.  i see a bee going from flower to flower at the beginning.  then he goes back and makes some honey.  is this too dull and stayed?  perhaps it should be a murder mystery or something - and someone's in a dark coat and just murdered a lady down the hall (stabbing or something).  but, i just don't see those heavy passions in this piece.

i'd like to hear a 'classical' version and not an overly 'romanticized' one - personally.  the bee sounds good to me.

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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #3 on: May 20, 2006, 01:11:51 AM
Kind of furious i would say ;).....but simply remarkable though :D!
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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #4 on: May 20, 2006, 10:10:15 PM
Very fast and furious.  :D
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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #5 on: May 21, 2006, 06:19:40 PM
I find dickreuter's playing tremendously entertaining.  :)
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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #6 on: May 21, 2006, 07:50:08 PM
sounds like you're playing on a play piano and the last chord of each run at the beginning seems it will shatter the thing.  you need a bose or steinway.  the treble on that piano is toyish.  it doesn't match your playing. 
only bad workmen blame their tools.  and dickreuter isnt a bad workman.  I don't understand your comment, pianistimo.

I like the fury, but at times like 3:35 - 3:45, the melody seems to disappear behind the chords.

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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 01:21:32 PM
Thanks for all the comments. I intend to record everything in a good studio at the beginning of next year then nobody will be able to blame the piano anymore ;)

If anybody has experience with recording studios in London I'd highly appreciate any recommendations.

thanks
Nicolas

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Re: Beethoven Moonlight Sonata III Movement
Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 01:28:55 PM
ONLY bad workmen?  i'd say that i had enough of my little toyish spinet by the time i was in 8th grade.  you have to use an instrument that brings out the genius in you and not bring out sounds that are toyish.  that's my opinion.

i'm not criticising his playing.  sometimes the felt on the hammers is worn down (or yikes...laquered) and that will cause a piano to sound 'too striking.'   
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