First the was the religion quiz and then there was....the politics quiz

[alwaystheangel]

I was bored found this site, it's not perfect but it's still interesting:

https://www.politicalcompass.org

post your results here:


Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

(you'll understand when you do the quiz)

[prometheus]

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.46

[lisztisforkids]

Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15


"Sometimes its okay for parents to spank their children" ?

[prometheus]

I think everyone should do the Iconochasm section quiz of that site: https://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/iconochasms.php


I had 27 correct.

[musik_man]

Economic Left/Right: 4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.44

This quiz(much more than the religious one) had terrible questions.

"What's good for the largest corporation is also good for the nation"

That depends.  Does it mean taking a laissez faire view of the economy?  Allowing corporations to escape environmetal regulation?  Does it mean subsidizing our successful corporations?  My answer would vary widely depending on exactly what is meant.

[prometheus]

The question is pretty clear. Do you believe in the 'goodness' of corporations or not.

That the quiz doesn't talk about nuances isn't that strange. I mean, not many people know what Laissez Faire is all about. And those that do do not need this quiz.

[jlh]

Economic Left/Right: -0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.03

Guess I'm about as "middle of the road" as you can get.  No wonder I dread voting so much... 


The quiz questions are worded ambiguously on purpose (I'm guessing).  By not giving you the option of a conditional response, you are taking a defined stance on a particular issue and the results of the quiz will be more accurate.

[alwaystheangel]

A chart of famous composers on the site:

Writers and artists have been generally more engaged in the big political debates of their day than composers, and their views are often more easily discerned through their works. So how well can we tell the positions of the great composers ?
Woody Allen quipped that every time he heard Wagner, he was overcome with the urge to invade Poland. The positions of most others are less clear in their work, although we can hear the difference between the assertive nationalism of Wagner and the gentle folk nationalism of Dvořák or Grieg. In the case of opera, of course, there are more clues. Mozart's, for example, dealt with class war (The Marriage of Figaro) and the liberal values of the Enlightenment. Biographies often provide helpful political information as well. Some composers, like Bartók, were known to have championed the underdog and sometimes clashed with the authorities as a result. Others, like Stravinsky, Mascagni and Puccini, enthusiastically embraced fascism. Still others, like Smetana and Tchaikovsky, were tolerant individualists who kept their distance from mass movements.
Because of the relative paucity of information, our composers' political chart is largely for amusement. People like Schubert, Bach, Debussy and Donizetti, who don't seem to have left any hints of their politics, have been left out altogether.

Important political leaders:

[prometheus]

It may be funny, or not, to realise that almost all leaders of state are authortarian. It seems you need to be either to want to or to succeed in becomming this.

I think the average person wil have
Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.00

[kelly_kelly]

Economic: -3
Social: -5.23

[jason2711]

Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

that sounds about right really... a mild socialist and slightly stronger libertarian

[alwaystheangel]

most seem to be pretty left and lebertarian.  Other than Musik_man....
It would be interesting to see what the average is for another forum that focuses on a completely different topic.

[jason2711]

that iconochasm quiz is interesting... some shocking things I wouldn't have thought of from many reputable historical/political figures

[alwaystheangel]

that iconochasm quiz is interesting... some shocking things I wouldn't have thought of from many reputable historical/political figures

Yeah, esp. Rooseveldt and Churchill, for me.  I wasn't familiar with a few of the lesser american figures at all So I'm not going to say how it did

[prometheus]

Well, I did know about Roosefelt and Churchill. I know Churchill had to be tempered by his generals several times to prevent him for carrying out more war crimes than he did.

As for Roosefelt, he liked Stalin...


I was suprised about Ghandi and Daila Lama. I wonder how much out of contect their comments were. For example Daila Lama presenting poems to Mao, well that is not so strange to me if you realise he did this regardless of Mao being his enemy and committing atrocities.
 
Almost all reputable historical figures aren't to be respected except maybe in a Machiavellian sense.

But yes, the iconochasm is cool.

[lisztisforkids]

Well, I did know about Roosefelt and Churchill. I know Churchill had to be tempered by his generals several times to prevent him for carrying out more war crimes than he did.

 Thank goodness we had people like Patton and Mcarthur bacl then instead of people like you.

[musik_man]

Thank goodness we had people like Patton and Mcarthur bacl then instead of people like you.

Have you ever seen the movie Patton?  Patton is such a badass.

[alejo_90]

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.97

[prometheus]

Thank goodness we had people like Patton and Mcarthur bacl then instead of people like you.

The main problem is that a military general needs to give an elected politician a lesson on ethics. If you know something about war and politics you will realise that this is very messed up. Either the UK generals were really 'sissies like me' or Churchill was just a very messed up alco... I mean person.


Actually, if I were leading an army against you I would surely win.

[lisztisforkids]

Actually, if I were leading an army against you I would surely win.

Hahaa... You sound like a little 8 year old. Yeah.. welll my dad can beat up your dad!

[lisztisforkids]

Actually, if I were leading an army against you I would surely win.

  Okay, thats it. You. Me. Hearts of Iron 2.

[prometheus]

No, it is just that I have read a lot of books on warfare and a lot of biographies on ancient generals.

So though I am more ethical than you are, I bet I also know more about waging war.

[lisztisforkids]

So though I am more ethical than you are, I bet I also know more about waging war.

 I seriously doubt you on both of those points.

[ted]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15