Criminals

[zheer]

    I 've recently started to ask the question, what is the difference between a medical doctors and criminals. As far as i know a criminal usually commits a crime intentionally for various reasons, one of those reasons are for money. I've also noticed a large number of Doctors commit the same crimes for money, the only difference is that a doctor can get away with it , where-as a person not in the medical proffesion does not get away with it.
       It is shocking when you think haw many people every year gets murderd by medical doctors and get rewarded financially and promoted, when i mean murderd i mean litraly with a knife and other methods or indirectly, ie just not giving a sh***t about people.

[thalbergmad]

You should read about John Bodkin Adams.

A prime example.

Thal

[prometheus]

Huh?

Medical docters are people with at least 8 years of education that commit oaths and commit to an ethical code. Then they try to cure sick people.

Criminals are people that make a profession by breaking the law.

What is the difference? Huh? What is the similarity between them?

[zheer]

Criminals are people that make a profession by breaking the law.

   The thing is prometheus Doctors are know to kill, for money and for promotion. Doctors have been known to kill a healthy person for their liver, ie to give their body parts once dead to some one with an illness for a large amount of money.

[gyzzzmo]

Hi Zheer.
Maybe you should take the (probably US) media a bit less serious. You act like every doctor in the world slaughter people for fun and money. What you forget that what you hear in the news are only extremes and that it is very uncommon.

[zheer]

Hi Zheer.
Maybe you should take the (probably US) media a bit less serious. You act like every doctor in the world slaughter people for fun and money. What you forget that what you hear in the news are only extremes and that it is very uncommon.

   Possibly, then again it might be a personal thing cause i hate medical doctors with a passion. Am convinced that they are responsible for a lot terrible things, things we dont know about.

   Apart from that fact they are full of Sh****t

[gyzzzmo]

   Possibly, then again it might be a personal thing cause i hate medical doctors with a passion. Am convinced that they are responsible for a lot terrible things, things we dont know about.

   Apart from that fact they are full of Sh****t

Oviously a discussion with you is useless. Why would you hate doctors with a passion. Is that jalousy? Or maybe you should watch less movies.

[timothy42b]

I think he's talking about the evil conspiracy that causes companies to have to prove drugs actually work and are safe before selling them.

And that occasionally suggests the same should be true for alternative therapies as well. 

[johnny-boy]

You'll find criminals in every sector of today’s society. Why pick on doctors? Why not pick on policemen, ministers, teachers, pizza delivery people, musicians (yikes), soldiers, etc.?

John

[gyzzzmo]

people like zheer cant be taken seriously.

[zheer]

. Why pick on doctors? Why not pick on policemen, ministers, teachers, pizza delivery people, musicians (yikes), soldiers, etc.?

John

   I dont like doctors because they pick on me, maybe they fancy me or something, i think male doctors are gay and female doctors have bad breath, simple as that.

[Kassaa]

   I dont like doctors because they pick on me, maybe they fancy me or something, i think male doctors are gay and female doctors have bad breath, simple as that.

You think wrong.

[zheer]

You think wrong.

   will see.

[gyzzzmo]

guys, stop trying to discuss things with these kind of people. Since their arguments are totally ungrounded and not rational, there is nothing to discuss.

[zheer]

guys, stop trying to discuss things with these kind of people. Since their arguments are totally ungrounded and not rational, there is nothing to discuss.

  Look Doctors like lawers, politicians, criminals, accountans, teachers have only one thing in mind, MONEY, they will do anything for money, watch the ones with the biggest smille they are the back stabbers.

[gilad]

i actually think traders in investment banks are quite dodgy fellows, because they rip people off.
As for doctors my dad is one, he isnt a bastard. Some of his colleagues have been caught out for malpractise, kick backs etc.
but trust me, the world is a million gazilion times better off with the people in white coats.

[Kassaa]

  Look Doctors like lawers, politicians, criminals, accountans, teachers have only one thing in mind, MONEY, they will do anything for money, watch the ones with the biggest smille they are the back stabbers.

OMG

[zheer]

OMG

   Look money makes the world go round, its just that some people do it in dis-honest way's. Doctors ,lawers , bussinessmen etc etc, are not as honest as you might like to think. Criminals.

[thalbergmad]

You'll find criminals in every sector of today’s society. Why pick on doctors? Why not pick on policemen, ministers, teachers, pizza delivery people, musicians (yikes), soldiers, etc.?

John

Pizza delivery people.

Now we are talking real criminals.

Give them a very wide berth.

Thal

[6ft 4]

dood doctors are the most useful of all professions (debateble) where'd u get the idea most of em r money grabbing sick bastards?!?

[gyzzzmo]

Zheer youre a big idiot. Expecially doctors are they guys/women who arent only after the money. Most of them, more than any other profession i think, do it because they always wanted to save people. Most specialties are very intensive and if you want to become rich there are loads of professions wich provide you with alot more money and less work.
So zheer, stop talking about thinks you dont know anything about and start playing with your toys.

Btw, thumsucking is bad for your front teeth.

Gyzzzmo

[zheer]

Zheer youre a big idiot. .

Gyzzzmo

   *** you, and *I disagree* good-bey pianostreet.com

[henrah]

Look Doctors like lawers, politicians, criminals, accountans, teachers have only one thing in mind, MONEY, they will do anything for money, watch the ones with the biggest smille they are the back stabbers.

Zheer, you're over generalising on this. There is no reason to generalise these professions as having only the motivation of money to want to do their job, even if all the people you know or have met from said professions do have only money in mind. They all do their chosen profession for different reasons: good-will, generosity, money, satisfaction of helping people, and many more.
Henrah

[alejo_90]

Some facts:

- Doctors study 8 years or more to learn how to save people's lives. That's their purpose.

- They are doctors who do the things that zheer said. Those people are scum.

- "Criminals are people that make a profession by breaking the law." (Prometheus)

So that's a big difference between doctors and criminals.

- zheer seems to think almost every people who has a good proffession is a criminal.

- zheer hates doctors because they are gay, or they have bad breath.

- zheer's arguments to defend his position are ridiculous.

Best
Alex

[musik_man]

Zheer, do you have any idea what sort of paperwork goes into organ donation?  It'd be pretty hard for your doctor to kill you and take your organs(unless the hospital consists of a shady looking man with sunglasses, a trenchcoat and a scalpel in a dark alley.)  In order for them to take your organs you'd have had to sign up as a donor before your death.  So if this truly worries you, don't register as a donor.

OTOH I have read reports of the Chinese government killing off prisoners and Falun Gong members for their organs.

[prometheus]

A hospital must be one of the worst location to pick to kill someone.

[pianistimo]

from my experience u can take or leave a doctor's advice (unless ur on the bed and requiring surgery - which CAN be scary).  if it is the former - as with my leg - i only left the cast on for the shortest possible time - because i didn't want knee surgery and i wanted to bend it and get rid of any possible bone spurs.  thankfully, my knee works ok now - but if i had waiting the prescribed time - i might have needed more rehab and have less mobility.  sometimes u go by the feel of ur own body.

on the second part - if u need surgery - u have to make sure that other people have been happy with theirs with this particular doctor.  some make huge incisions - others much less.

and, regarding plastic surgery - i think that people that ASK to have huge operations are no worse than their doctors.  the human body can only stand so much cutting and pasting. 

hope u haven't had a bad experience with a regular doctor, zheer.  hope that whatever it is - u haven't lost someone to a hospital experience.  one of my husband's aunts was treated badly by the night staff at one hospital and died within a week because of injuries that didn't have to happen.  i think the NIGHT staff differs greatly from the day staff (for obvious reasons).  u should always, if possible, stay with people in the hospital that are in serious condition.  then, u can speak for them, and make sure their needs are met. 

[pianistimo]

there have been more times (here is us) that i have been happy with the outcomes of surgery than not.  for instance, my hubby had to have rotator cuff surgery.  at first, i thought the doctor just wanted the money - and his arm would grow together again.  but, as i found out - certain things just don't happen the way u want.  when they cut his arm open (very small incision in the front and they folded the skin back over the arm) they found that his shoulder muscles/ligaments were hanging literally by a thread or two.  that was bad for as much lifting as he liked to do.  beleive it or not, he can lift everything he did before (but i usally don't ask him to do a lot).  i don't know what the doctor did to fix this so well-  but he must ahve been a vERY good doctor.  also, it healed very well.

what i think is terrible is if someone has hip surgery or something and someone (whether doctor or nurse) is not as clean as they should be and the incision gets infection.  this happened to my grandmother and she had to have the incision opened up again.  this is unfair to patients, imo, and causes so much pain. 

guess there are bad docs and good docs. t he good ones are honest, upfront, tell u the possible things that could go wrong - but make it very clear that their past patients have been happy with results.  i think there are some sites on the internet where u can check doctors records by patient experiences and research.

[prometheus]

Esthetic plastic surgery is bad. They also get payed a lot more than heart surgeons or brain surgeons. The demand of esthetic plastic surgery is created. People are talked into it. Then they will be unhappy without because they have decided they need it.


There are also plastic surgeons that reconstruct faces of mutilated people. Or people that are born with deformed features, often the faces. So not all plastic surgeons are doing useless things.


But being a heart surgeon, opening someones chest, detaching their heart, have it stop, then cut into it and reattact is and then hope it starts working again, that must be stressful.

[rimv2]

   I dont like doctors because they pick on me, maybe they fancy me or something, i think male doctors are gay and female doctors have bad breath, simple as that.

Yes.

Ah see.


And perhaps,

Maybe,

gay people who look like Brad Pitt,

try to rape you.

When you look like Jack Black or Chris Farley.

Douche

[gyzzzmo]

   *** you, and *I disagree* good-bey pianostreet.com

Well that would be a huuuuuuuuge loss.

[timothy42b]

A hospital must be one of the worst location to pick to kill someone.

I dunno.  I have seen hospital chase scenes in probably over 100 movies.  Somehow in any action thriller there is at least one scene with a murder or attempted murder in a hospital, and the bad guy takes off on foot, pulling carts in the path, knocking down nurses with an armload of charts, etc.

Not once have I ever seen them catch the person running away.  Not once.  I bet you can't name a movie where it happens.

Conclusion, a hospital is the best place to pick, because you are going to get away.  At least temporarily.