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Which among these chopin etudes do you consider the technically most difficult? Do not vote if you have not played them!!

10/5
5 (10.4%)
10/7
4 (8.3%)
10/8
10 (20.8%)
10/10
8 (16.7%)
10/11
3 (6.3%)
10/12
3 (6.3%)
25/1
1 (2.1%)
25/2
3 (6.3%)
25/3
0 (0%)
25/4
4 (8.3%)
25/5
3 (6.3%)
25/9
4 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 18

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Topic: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania  (Read 2105 times)

Offline cloches_de_geneve

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Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
on: June 10, 2006, 11:28:11 AM
There was little disagreement about the finding of my previous polls that the following 8 Chopin etudes are the most difficult (of course, not everybody liked the exact placements, but this was to be expected because these are averages that cannot fit every individual).

1. 25/6 2. 25/11 3. 10/2 4. 10/1 5. 10/4 6. 25/12 7. 25/8 8. 25/10

However, it was much harder to come up with a reliable ranking for the next 12 most difficult etudes (slow ones are excluded). Thus, it was not very surprising that quite of few members found the rankings for the "easier" etudes not satisfactory. Therefore, I would like to start a new poll related to these etudes.  Choose the three etudes that you think are most difficult based on your own experience playing these etudes.



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Re: Chopin Etudes: Ranking the easier etudes
Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 11:13:44 AM
In the poll "Chopin Etudes: Ranked from most to least difficult" the wish was expressed by kelly_kelly to provide a poll for the easier etudes so that their ranking-accuracy may be improved. Here it is. :)
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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 12:16:25 PM
I meant that the voters should vote for the easiest etudes among these. That increases accuracy in the bottom range of the bottom spectrum, which is helpful because most people want to know which one to play first.
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

A world, in short, totally unlike our own.

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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #3 on: June 26, 2006, 12:35:01 PM
I meant that the voters should vote for the easiest etudes among these. That increases accuracy in the bottom range of the bottom spectrum, which is helpful because most people want to know which one to play first.

Sure, I understand. As votes accumulate, the etudes never chosen will be those considered easiest (the ones with the lowest percentage).
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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 01:04:31 PM
Yes, but imagine that everyone had the same opinion as to the three most difficult etudes of this selection (obviously not true, but just to make my point). Those three would all have a number of votes, but the rest would be left with no votes, and it would be difficult to rank them. A similar situation will occur here.
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

A world, in short, totally unlike our own.

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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #5 on: June 26, 2006, 01:25:16 PM
Kelly_kelly's idea with picking the easiest is good... But I think we won't be stuck with five zeros... I'd say this cut-down list will do what it's supposed to, the selection is small enough...

It could be a good idea to stick the finished list on top of the Repertoire section, because chopets relative difficulty questions occur rather often...
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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 05:10:47 PM
I can already tell that most the people who voted haven't played these pieces.

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Re: Chopin Etudes: Rankomania
Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 05:43:32 PM
I can already tell that most the people who voted haven't played these pieces.

That's exactly what I was talking about in the other thread. What we need is to find a concert pianist, someone like Koji, who does this for a living and has played all 24 etudes (not implying that you have played them all, Koji, but if that is the case this would be much easier, as I do not know of another concert pianist identified on this thread in the same fashion)

Phil
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