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Topic: A problem that makes my head spin
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piano guy
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A problem that makes my head spin
on: June 25, 2006, 05:29:35 AM
I was thinking the other day, and I came up with the craziest musical problem... It deals largely with math, so I decided to post it here instead of the Music Theory board...
Here's the problem: How many dots would one have to add to a quarter note to make it equal a half note? Seems like a simple question at first, but then you think about it... A dotted quarter note = a quarter note + an eighth note. A quarter note with two dots = a quarter note + an eighth note + a sixteenth note, and if you keep adding dots, the value added to the previous note continues to half, so, mathematically, the question is essentially this:
If we continue this pattern: 1+1/2+1/4+1/8, etc., How many additions are we going to have to make to the original 1 to make the answer equal to 2? I guess the question is really "WILL it ever equal 2?"
Math people help me out here! This one makes my head spin!
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steveie986
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 05:40:47 AM
1+1/2+1/4+1/8... = 2
The sum of the series 1/(2^n) approaches 1 as n approaches infinity.
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piano guy
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 05:50:28 AM
...so what you're basically saying is that, musically, it would take an infinite number of dots to make a quarter note equal a half note, and mathematically, it would take an infinite number of additions to the original 1 in the pattern for it to equal 2?
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steveie986
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 05:56:00 AM
You got it.
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invictious
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 09:51:56 AM
Damn, screw it, steveie beat me to it
You will never ever get there, just like 0.9999999999999999999 =/= 1
*shoots steveie*
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stevie
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 10:03:38 AM
Quote from: invictious on June 25, 2006, 09:51:56 AM
*shoots steveie*
shoot him twice, on behalf of me.
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pianolearner
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 02:02:07 PM
Shoot him 0.999... times
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pianistimo
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #7 on: June 25, 2006, 02:21:57 PM
xenakis? i'd just make it simple and write the half note.
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prometheus
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Re: A problem that makes my head spin
Reply #8 on: June 25, 2006, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: pianolearner on June 25, 2006, 02:02:07 PM
Shoot him 0.999... times
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