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Offline kiza_121

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Sadest song
on: July 17, 2006, 02:16:54 AM
 ::) i was just wondering what people's thoughts were on, on the sadest song that they have heard.

Cheers guys  :-*

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 02:22:12 AM
theme song in "the Red violin" (great movie, everyone has to see it)
The one that the mother hums to her unborn child and that the violing sings
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 04:12:38 AM
Chopin's Etude Op. 10 No. 6
"When I look around me, I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion and I must despize the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation beyond all wisdom and philosophy."

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 05:42:45 AM
Chopin's Etude Op. 10 No. 6
chopin-godowsky's etude op 10 no 6 is a bit sadder to me.

id like to add on chopin's etude op 25 no 7. too bad godowsky didnt transcribe this one.
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 06:02:02 AM

id like to add on chopin's etude op 25 no 7. too bad godowsky didnt transcribe this one.

How could he have possibly made it better? It's perfect. I second it.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
The Schubert-Liszt or even the Shubert-Thalberg- Der Muller und Der Bach, never fails to make me :'(
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #6 on: July 17, 2006, 06:57:51 PM
It's not a SONG, but...

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #7 on: July 17, 2006, 07:20:53 PM
when you mean "song", you mean "piece", right?
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #8 on: July 17, 2006, 07:31:03 PM
when you mean "song", you mean "piece", right?

Whom do you ask?

I find it somewhat strange to name pieces, you definitely can't sing, as song
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #9 on: July 17, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
Gluck- Sgambati- Melody from Orfeo
Schubert- Serenade

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #10 on: July 17, 2006, 07:51:21 PM
Whom do you ask?

I find it somewhat strange to name pieces, you definitely can't sing, as song
im asking the creator of this thread.
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #11 on: July 17, 2006, 08:48:33 PM
chopin-godowsky's etude op 10 no 6 is a bit sadder to me.

id like to add on chopin's etude op 25 no 7. too bad godowsky didnt transcribe this one.

while I do respect an admire Godowsky a lot, and I do honestly love many of the Chopin-Godowsky etude. That specific etude in Godowsky`s arrangement is just disgusthing. I do really hate it.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #12 on: July 17, 2006, 09:04:10 PM
while I do respect an admire Godowsky a lot, and I do honestly love many of the Chopin-Godowsky etude. That specific etude in Godowsky`s arrangement is just disgusthing. I do really hate it.
Interesting. I certainly don't hate it - not at all, for it'sa wonderfully wrought piece in its own right - but it is the one of the entire cycle that strikes me as seriously inferior to Chopin's original.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #13 on: July 17, 2006, 09:05:51 PM
Interesting. I certainly don't hate it - not at all, for it'sa wonderfully wrought piece in its own right - but it is the one of the entire cycle that strikes me as seriously inferior to Chopin's original.

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I guess that is a better way of putting it ;)

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #14 on: July 17, 2006, 09:08:28 PM
i still think its better. i really do. and i will continue to regard it higher than chopin's original version.
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #15 on: July 17, 2006, 10:24:09 PM
i still think its better. i really do. and i will continue to regard it higher than chopin's original version.
That's your opinion - to which, of course, you are perfectly well entitled. I still think that the Godowsky remains a gorgeous piece of pianistic tracery in its own right; for me, however, it just happens to lack the full depth, poignancy and restraint that makes the Chopin original the utterly remarkable piece that it is.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #16 on: July 17, 2006, 11:38:10 PM
That's your opinion - to which, of course, you are perfectly well entitled. I still think that the Godowsky remains a gorgeous piece of pianistic tracery in its own right; for me, however, it just happens to lack the full depth, poignancy and restraint that makes the Chopin original the utterly remarkable piece that it is.

Best,

Alistair


I agree. While there is no denying Godowsky's genius, I think the Chopin etudes are better left untouched.
"When I look around me, I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion and I must despize the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation beyond all wisdom and philosophy."

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #17 on: July 18, 2006, 07:27:36 AM

I agree. While there is no denying Godowsky's genius, I think the Chopin etudes are better left untouched.
Now I don't entirely agree with you there. Of course, Chopin's Études WERE left untouched by Godowsky, because they are still intact and nothing that Godowsky either did or sought to do with the material in them alters that one jot, nor has it undermined them. My remark, incidentally, related to one Godowsky transcription ONLY - the E flat minor from Op. 10; it was not intended as a general comment vis-à-vis Godowksy as compared to Chopin...

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #18 on: July 18, 2006, 11:06:49 AM
im asking the creator of this thread.


Hi there, when i said song i used it in a general sense as i didn't want to restrict the replies, as i was interested to see what people would write.

Hope that answers your question.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #19 on: July 18, 2006, 09:43:33 PM
one of the sadest pieces which ive hearrd are by far the cis minor nocture of chopin
the e-minor noctuce op. 72 no. 1, "Le Moulin - Yann tiersen", the 4th prelude of chopin,
Smetana "Die Moldau", the Theme from Schindlers List for Violin is also very sad =/,
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #20 on: July 23, 2006, 06:44:49 AM
In the contest for saddest song, all these piano pieces are disqualified.  My favorite, Tchaikovsky's "Chanson Triste," is the only eligible piece.  Ha!

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #21 on: July 23, 2006, 07:20:01 AM
wagner-liszt's isoldens liebestod. actually, most transcriptions of it (even the original) would be really sad to listen to. when i heard hamelin play this live, i literally was almost in tears.

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Hi there, when i said song i used it in a general sense as i didn't want to restrict the replies, as i was interested to see what people would write.


i believe anything qualifies. ha!
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #22 on: July 25, 2006, 10:12:43 AM
Debussy - "La chevelure" from Chansons de Bilitis. the "j'ai rêvé" kills me every time.
Belles journées, souris du temps,
vous rongez peu à peu ma vie.
Dieu! Je vais avoir vingt-huit ans...
Et mal vécus, à mon envie.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #23 on: July 25, 2006, 11:44:20 AM
Schumann-Das Abens from Fantasiestucke op.12 no.1
Gluck-Sgambatti-Melodie
Scriabin-Etudes op.2 no.1 in c sharp minor and op.11 no.11 in b flat minor
             Prelude op.11 no.9 in c sharp minor
Chopin Ballades nos.1,2 and 4 (the main themes)
Schubert-Sonata in B flat major D.960-second mvt (especialy played by Richter:))

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #24 on: July 28, 2006, 06:42:17 PM
Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableaux op.33 no.7/8 (Whatever the numbering is... Moderato.)

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #25 on: July 28, 2006, 07:00:20 PM
Shostakovitch 7th stringquartet. It's disturbing  :-\
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Re: Sadest song
Reply #26 on: July 28, 2006, 08:12:55 PM
The slow movement of Shostakovich's Piano Trio No. 2 in E minor is heartbreakingly sad...  It sounds so lonely somehow.
A and B the C of D.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #27 on: July 28, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
The Grave movement of Chausson's Concert in D. It's devastating.

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Re: Sadest song
Reply #28 on: July 29, 2006, 12:50:26 AM
Rach's Vocalise  ;)

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Re: Saddest song
Reply #29 on: July 31, 2006, 11:03:58 PM
Tchaikovsky: Pathetique symphony

Wagner: Liebestod from 'Tristan and Isolde', as jre said

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