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Topic: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude  (Read 6241 times)

Offline steveolongfingers

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Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
on: December 29, 2003, 10:45:34 PM
After delaying this day for almost 2 years i have to finish "studying" for the preformers ARCT,  It's has to 60 minuets long (no problem with that part lol) IM playing Impromtu in F minor op 142 no 1- Schubert, Prelude and Fugue in G minor, BMV 885- Bach, Sonata No.14 Op 27 (Moonlight)- Beethoven, Rach's Prelude op 23, no 4 and some piece of poo 20th century new age thing.  The question is I NEED AN CONCERT ETUDE,  any ideas, i need them soon, i have to learn this piece in about 4 months, so dont make impossible suggestion!  
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 11:06:05 PM
Liszt's Concert Etude Un Suspiro would be an excellect choice.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #2 on: December 30, 2003, 02:32:42 AM
Why do people keep playing the same pieces? Personally I would do something that I know the examiner hasn't had to sit through hundreds of mediocre performances of before - Rautavaara is the way to go :),
Ed

P.s. What is your 20th century piece?

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #3 on: December 30, 2003, 06:05:38 AM
I leap through th sky with stars- alexina louie, i really dont like it, but one of my teachers said no one plays it
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #4 on: December 30, 2003, 08:02:03 AM
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I leap through th sky with stars- alexina louie, i really dont like it, but one of my teachers said no one plays it


Sometimes good reasons exist for nobody playing certain pieces,
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #5 on: December 31, 2003, 03:54:49 AM
Omg moonlight Sonata, almost as played out as Canon in D Major. For the Concert Etude, if you need something light go with Chopin's Revolutionary Etude op. 10 No. 12 ( I know, also very played out but...only 4 months :(.)

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #6 on: December 31, 2003, 03:58:42 AM
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if you need something light go with Chopin's Revolutionary Etude op. 10 No. 12  


I hope that is sarcasm,
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #7 on: December 31, 2003, 04:01:25 AM
omg I learned that in a week!

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #8 on: December 31, 2003, 04:07:30 AM
That does not make it light. John Ogdon learnt Brahms' second piano concerto in a day, that doesn't make it light,
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #9 on: December 31, 2003, 06:53:39 AM
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Omg moonlight Sonata, almost as played out as Canon in D Major. :(.)


If your talking about pachebels canon in d major (which isnt even written for piano) then i guess the first movement of this very awesome sonata is overplayed, but how many people do you know that play the third and even the second movement of this piece?...I have been playing this piece for nearly 5 years, i know it upside down and backwards.  I could have played the Waldstien, but i dont have time to memorize it.  Plus I have to memorize the Schubert impromtu still, as well as learn an etude.

DONT DISS THE MOONLIGHT MAN, THERES MORE TO IT THEN THE FREAKING ADAGIO SOSTENUTO.  

On to what I really wanted to say, what about Scrabian?  I dont know him too well, are his Etudes do-able?  I learn pretty fast...and if the intervals between hands are large its cool, i reach a 12th with my left and that with a stretch on my right.  
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #10 on: December 31, 2003, 07:03:32 AM
Liszt's Trancendental Etude kicks butt.... unfortunately i don't know any of the numbers or anything important, that's about it!  Good luck!    ;D
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #11 on: December 31, 2003, 07:19:43 AM
I luv The Scriabin Etudes opus 8. Im still in my first year of study and i am playing opus 8no4 its not the hardest one but its very beautifull. Also the one in sixths is great its no 6 of the set , and then u have the last of the set opus8 no 12 which is also great. I have a question do u have a list u must pick from or can u pick any Concert Etude. I am not familiar with ARct i dont even know what it is actually. So if "Yall" could enlighten me that would be great.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #12 on: December 31, 2003, 10:10:53 AM
If you want to do Scriabin, the coolest one in my opinion is the op.49, #5, it's amazing!! Rautavaara's etude in thirds (as well as his others) is really cool, as well as Lizst's third, fourth, fifth, and tenth transcendental etudes, and his La Campanella (a bit overplayed but sooo cool) and his sixth Paganini etude. These are really cool and sure to impress!

Chop

P.S. Chopin is always great, but pretty much all of his etudes are overplayed or at least familiar to most pianists.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #13 on: December 31, 2003, 02:02:31 PM
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Rautavaara's etude in thirds (as well as his others) is really cool


Finally someone else mentions him! Do you know a lot of his music?
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #14 on: December 31, 2003, 06:47:38 PM
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I am not familiar with ARct i dont even know what it is actually. So if "Yall" could enlighten me that would be great.


Associate of the Royal Conservitory, i dont know how they derived ARCT from that though.....
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #15 on: December 31, 2003, 07:36:15 PM
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Associate of the Royal Conservitory, i dont know how they derived ARCT from that though.....


Of Toronto perhaps?
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #16 on: December 31, 2003, 10:01:38 PM
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Of Toronto perhaps?
Ed


Who knows what these crazy people think.  

Thanks for all the suggestions, ill download a few pages of these pieces and then make up my mind, and then go buy the real music.
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #17 on: December 31, 2003, 10:05:55 PM
I'm telling you, Rautavaara is the way to go,
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #18 on: January 01, 2004, 08:59:07 PM
Actually ed, you were the one who told me about Rautavaara. I think he is really great! He reminds me of a mixture of Scriabin, Prokofiev, and Ravel.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #19 on: January 02, 2004, 04:08:42 AM
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If your talking about pachebels canon in d major (which isnt even written for piano) then i guess the first movement of this very awesome sonata is overplayed, but how many people do you know that play the third and even the second movement of this piece?...I have been playing this piece for nearly 5 years, i know it upside down and backwards.  I could have played the Waldstien, but i dont have time to memorize it.  Plus I have to memorize the Schubert impromtu still, as well as learn an etude.

DONT DISS THE MOONLIGHT MAN, THERES MORE TO IT THEN THE FREAKING ADAGIO SOSTENUTO.  

On to what I really wanted to say, what about Scrabian?  I dont know him too well, are his Etudes do-able?  I learn pretty fast...and if the intervals between hands are large its cool, i reach a 12th with my left and that with a stretch on my right.  


I learned that song ( memorized, all 3 movements ) in a few weeks and performed it in atleast 8 recital/concert halls in Ontario and on almost every type of piano. There's some "hardcoreness" within that Sonata but not enough for someone to spend 5 years on it, that's excessive. I hope you apologize to the examiner for making him sit through the first two movements, which IMO are shier torture.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #20 on: January 02, 2004, 01:11:52 PM
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I learned that song


When will they learn?
Ed

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #21 on: January 02, 2004, 08:45:04 PM
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There's some "hardcoreness" within that Sonata but not enough for someone to spend 5 years on it, that's excessive.


I learned that piece five years ago, it took me about 2 months to prefect it, and i play it all the rudy time because me girl friend really likes it.
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #22 on: January 03, 2004, 01:29:11 AM
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When will they learn?
Ed

Oh, I'm sorry I forgot that I have to use correct musical terminology around the forum snob. Call them whatever you want I really don't care, when will you ever learn?

*it took me about 2 months to prefect it*
Ohhhhh, k! haha, nvm, forgot to say that part :P

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #23 on: January 03, 2004, 03:40:38 AM

Given four months, I think the best suggestion thus far in this topic has been the sixth Paganini tude by Liszt.

It's in Theme/Variation form, so memorisation is aided by that alone, and it is very impressive. In four months, one should be able to have it under one's belt.

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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #24 on: January 03, 2004, 08:26:36 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry I forgot that I have to use correct musical terminology around the forum snob. Call them whatever you want I really don't care, when will you ever learn?


https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1052751032;start=39,
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #25 on: April 04, 2004, 12:29:46 AM
LISZT "il lamento", the first of Three Concert Studies (the last one being the more famous "un sospiro"), which I feel is the greatest of the set, and certainly one of Liszt's most touching pieces, yet the most neglected and least heard on discs and concerts alike. How could anyone ignore such a beautiful piece with a profoundly heartfelt melody building up to such a glorious climax?

This is my very top favourite of all Liszt's etudes, including the Transcendental Etudes. The recurring (and ever-developing) motif often moves me to tears on hearing and on playing it myself.

The climax is the most showy part consisting of wide double-note leaps alternating between the hands. I find this part extremely challenging, even to read from the score, let alone master it by heart. Once mastering it, playing the piece is a phenomenal pleasure although it is genuinely a piece conveying lamentation.
Peter (Hong Kong)
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Re: Preformer's ARCT Concert Etude
Reply #26 on: April 05, 2004, 01:43:01 PM
Chopin's op10-2! Or even better, play it at Meiting's speed.
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