I need a scale book that shows

[barnowl]

The Major scale, then beneath that the Major's
Relative, Harmonic and Melodic Scales.

And it does this for all the Major Scales

Can someone suggest one, please?

[pianistimo]

dare i say hanon's 'the virtuoso pianist?'  if no other reason to get that book.  it has four octaves up and down and chords at the end of each.

[allthumbs]

Barnowl

Look in the sheet music section.

Do a search for 'scales' and you'll get what you want. Major, harmonic and melodic minor scales are in separate PDF files.


Cheers

allthumbs

[chopinfan_22]

Any decent scale book would be able to help you here. Just make a trip to your nearest music store/piano store that sells piano books and look at the scale books they have. They're bound to have something that is similar to what you are looking for.

Hope this helps.

[barnowl]

Barnowl
Look in the sheet music section.
Do a search for 'scales' and you'll get what you want. Major, harmonic and melodic minor scales are in separate PDF files.
Cheers
allthumbs

I did. Every search yielded no results.

But it's okay.

On Friday, my teacher will slit my throat, or break my fingers, so I won't need the scales after all. Poor me. 

   

[quasimodo]

I did. Every search yielded no results.

But it's okay.

On Friday, my teacher will slit my throat, or break my fingers, so I won't need the scales after all. Poor me. 

   

Well, if you google on "music theory" you'll probably find something, at least for the key of C major, and then a good exercise would be to transpose for all other keys.

[timothy42b]

Well, if you google on "music theory" you'll probably find something, at least for the key of C major, and then a good exercise would be to transpose for all other keys.

If all else fails download Finale Notepad, the shareware version.

Type in a major scale you know, like maybe..........C?

Print.  Hit the transpose key, print again.  When you have twelve pages get out your scissors. 

[quasimodo]

If all else fails download Finale Notepad, the shareware version.

Type in a major scale you know, like maybe..........C?

Print.  Hit the transpose key, print again.  When you have twelve pages get out your scissors. 

However, I do think transposing by oneself is quite better in the purpose of knowing the scales and understanding how they are built. It's not that challenging...

[allthumbs]

I did. Every search yielded no results.

But it's okay.

On Friday, my teacher will slit my throat, or break my fingers, so I won't need the scales after all. Poor me. 

   

I e-mailed them to you.

[barnowl]

I e-mailed them to you.

Thank you very much, Thumbs! Maybe I'll live to see Saturday.

Your emails haven't arrived yet, but I'm sure they will.

but what's irritating about all this is, no book that I own provides what I need.

For C major, for example, I want the Natural minor (A) and the Eb Relative Minors  - Harmonic and Melodic. And like that for all the majors

With C Major, Hanon (which Pianistimo was very kind to suggest) gives only  the A minor Harmonic and Melodic — I think. Maybe there's more elsewhere in the book.

In Mastering the Scales and Arpeggios, James Francis Cook gives the major scales and with C Major, for example, provides the Eb Harmonic and Melodic Minors. No A minor.

Every Drill Master gives his own version of what's good for you, apparently.

But in spite of it all, I'm really enjoying working with the harmonics and melodics for C and G so far.  There's something nice about them, something euphonic, almost alien. (Sounds like a line from my romantic friend, Pianistimo). 

Anyway, tomorrow I have to walk in with all the scales mentioned for C,G, A, and D.Thanks very, very much for your help.

I MADE A BIG CORRECTION IN THIS POST . INITIALLY I HAD WRITTEN Bb MINORS FOR C MAJOR. Eb IS MORE LIKE IT. VERY SORRY.

[pianistimo]

just get the hanon and add the melodic.  i'll help you with that if you want. 

here's a site that explain (have to scroll down):
https://library.thinkquest.org/15413/theory/intervals.htm

usually you don't use melodic minor that much.  as long as you have the basic fingering for the Major and related minor scales (esp. natural and harmonic) you're doing ok.

Major = W W 1/2 WWW 1/2
natural minor = W 1/2 W W 1/2 W W
melodic ascending = W 1/2 W W W W 1/2
descending = W W 1/2 W W 1/2 W
harmonic= W 1/2 W W 1/2 W+1/2 1/2

hope this helps!   

[pianistimo]

if you want to know the related natural minor - count down 1 1/2 steps (or three 1/2 steps).  usually it's a letter that is two below whatever the major key letter is.  for instance for G = e minor
it's tricky only when you have E major because 1 1/2 steps below that is c#.  but, you know the letter at least is correct because it's usually two letters below (and wouldn't be d-flat since that is only one).

do you need the scales written out with fingering?  does piano street have it?

ps barnowl - it's wednesday already.  i hate to be unromantic - but what the heck were you doing on monday and tuesday.  just thinking about it?  by now you could have had them all written out yourself.  what are you waiting for.  the sky to fall?

*suddenly becomes nice again - ok.  i feel needed and necessary with you around.  i'll help you.  what next? fingering?  ok.  i'll look in my 'cooke book.'

[barnowl]

just get the hanon and add the melodic.  i'll help you with that if you want. 

here's a site that explain (have to scroll down):
https://library.thinkquest.org/15413/theory/intervals.htm

usually you don't use melodic minor that much.  as long as you have the basic fingering for the Major and related minor scales (esp. natural and harmonic) you're doing ok.

Major = W W 1/2 WWW 1/2
natural minor = W 1/2 W W 1/2 W W
melodic ascending = W 1/2 W W W W 1/2
descending = W W 1/2 W W 1/2 W
harmonic= W 1/2 W W 1/2 W+1/2 1/2

hope this helps!   

Thank you, Pianistimo. It does help and I Bookmarked the site.

[barnowl]

if you want to know the related natural minor - count down 1 1/2 steps (or three 1/2 steps).  usually it's a letter that is two below whatever the major key letter is.  for instance for G = e minor
it's tricky only when you have E major because 1 1/2 steps below that is c#.  but, you know the letter at least is correct because it's usually two letters below (and wouldn't be d-flat since that is only one).

do you need the scales written out with fingering?  does piano street have it?

ps barnowl - it's wednesday already.  i hate to be unromantic - but what the heck were you doing on monday and tuesday.  just thinking about it?  by now you could have had them all written out yourself.  what are you waiting for.  the sky to fall?

*suddenly becomes nice again - ok.  i feel needed and necessary with you around.  i'll help you.  what next? fingering?  ok.  i'll look in my 'cooke book.'

I deserved your wrath and feel properly guilty.

What happened was I spent all the time on my darned recital piece. I want it to be the hit of the show - which will be in November. I'll be doing another piece — undetermined so, far but it will definitely be by a Russian composer. My teacher came from there about 3 years ago.

I thought it'd be a gesture of affection and respect to play an American Rag and a Russian classic. It'll show her versatility as a teacher. (And she loves Tchaikovsky.) Natasha never even heard a rag until I came along. So, she did a little research and now teaches me how to play Weeping Willow.

I have a book of pieces on order - Works by Russian Composers, is the title I think. I hope there's a good one by Peter Illyich in there.

All Thumbs has emailed me some scales, so I can wait until that arrives. If I need additional help I'll PM you — if it's okay with you.

Now please go back to being your usual romantic self. By the way, when I attributed that trait to you in an earlier post, it was meant as a sincere compliment (although dealt humorously). It still is.

After all, who but a romantic would hear a D from a tree getting pecked at? 

I think I'll see what I can do to develop perfect pitch. Then I can let you know what tunes my woodpeckers are generating.  We get lots and lots of woodpeckers. The secret? Hanging suet throughout much of the year - not just in winter.

NOW, BACK TO THE SCALES. IF YOU POST BACK, CHANCES ARE I WON'T SEE IT FOR AN HOUR.

[allthumbs]

Thank you very much, Thumbs! Maybe I'll live to see Saturday.

Your emails haven't arrived yet, but I'm sure they will.

Sorry, I e-mailed them to myself!

They should be there now.

Cheers

allthumbs

[jcg256]

could you also e-mail it to me at: jcg256@yahoo.com

?

Thanks!

[barnowl]

could you also e-mail it to me at: jcg256@yahoo.com

?

Thanks!

If Thumbs, can't, I'll be happy to forward them to you,  JCG. Just say thge word - either of you.

[barnowl]

If Thumbs, can't, I'll be happy to forward them to you,  JCG. Just say thge word - either of you.

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i sent 'em jcg.

[barnowl]

If all else fails download Finale Notepad, the shareware version.

Type in a major scale you know, like maybe..........C?

Print.  Hit the transpose key, print again.  When you have twelve pages get out your scissors. 

I have Finale. But I now have the scales I need.

But that's a helluvan idea Timothy! Maybe I'll try it anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[pianistimo]

over an hour.  now what are you doing? 

[barnowl]

over an hour.  now what are you doing? 

Moi?

Babysitting our grandchildren. At the moment, they're sleeping. And I'm not going to wake them up by playing scales.

Now, I could do the scales, but the babies (9 months) would awaken.

And do you know what they love? No kidding. The first movement of K.545. It's one of the 50 "songs" recorded in my digital piano. When they came over last week, I played it just to see what they'd do. Well Saxton started moving to the beat. But Madox crawled - zipped, actually - to the piano raised himself to standing at the bench, and stood there riveted. I was nearby in case he fell, and at one point he turned to me his eyes wide, and rapt, as if to say, "Grampa, this is the best thing I've ever heard!!!!!"

And he stayed there for the entire movement. I played another canned piece, Alla Turca, then K.1. Same thing. He stood there transfixed. That's a long time for an infant's attention span, but he did the same thing again this morning. This time his brother joined in.

I'm hoping we've got a couple of musicians in the family. And they're beautiful, bright, happy, affectionate, and so active they wear us out.

Life has never been so good.

[jcg256]

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i sent 'em jcg.

Thanks a lot grandpa.    appreciate it..