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sonata76

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forth finger

on: July 28, 2006, 08:54:36 AM

hi,does anyone know any finger strength exercises for the forth finger.i have noticed that my forth on the LH is stronger than on the right.which is strange because i am right handed.thanx

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bench warmer

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Re: forth finger

Reply #1 on: July 28, 2006, 02:57:16 PM

Chopin Op10 No.2

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kriskicksass

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Re: forth finger

Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 08:38:28 PM

Quote from: bench warmer on July 28, 2006, 02:57:16 PM

Chopin Op10 No.2

Or simply practice chromatics with 3, 4, and 5 without putting it into the context of the etude. Just as beneficial (from the 4th finger's pov), but saves the effort of learning the specific notes. Later, after you can play the chromatics well enough, the etude would be the next step in development.

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bernhard

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Re: forth finger

Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 08:43:10 PM

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7887.msg79326.html#msg79326
(why the lifting of the 4th finger is a non-problem)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2502.msg21594.html#msg21594
(Independence of the 3rd and 4thfinger – it is impossible, one should work towards the illusion of independence: it is all arm work)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2033.msg16635.html#msg16635
(finger strength)

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=16273.msg181768#msg181768
(More Hanon: demonstration of 4th finger problem)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5034.msg47829.html#msg47829
(The finger strength controversy – some excellent posts by xvimbi)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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stevie

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Re: forth finger

Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 10:14:59 PM

Quote from: bernhard on July 28, 2006, 08:43:10 PM

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7887.msg79326.html#msg79326
(why the lifting of the 4th finger is a non-problem)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2502.msg21594.html#msg21594
(Independence of the 3rd and 4thfinger – it is impossible, one should work towards the illusion of independence: it is all arm work)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2033.msg16635.html#msg16635
(finger strength)

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=16273.msg181768#msg181768
(More Hanon: demonstration of 4th finger problem)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5034.msg47829.html#msg47829
(The finger strength controversy – some excellent posts by xvimbi)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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gruffalo

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Re: forth finger

Reply #5 on: July 29, 2006, 08:49:30 PM

Thanks for the excellent explanations on this, bernhard. just one quick question. do you agree with C.Chang's theories on piano practice? im just interested because i dont want to waste my time going through it if it doesnt actually work.

Gruff

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bernhard

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Re: forth finger

Reply #6 on: July 30, 2006, 12:19:15 AM

Quote from: gruffalo on July 29, 2006, 08:49:30 PM

Thanks for the excellent explanations on this, bernhard. just one quick question. do you agree with C.Chang's theories on piano practice? im just interested because i dont want to waste my time going through it if it doesnt actually work.

Gruff

Yes, I do. His book is required reading. Some of what he writes I would have questions, but I believe this would probably be because it is very difficult to write about the subject without demonstration. I am sure that if we met and talked about it with a piano nearby we would realise we are talking about pretty much the same thing.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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gruffalo

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Re: forth finger

Reply #7 on: July 30, 2006, 09:00:31 AM

excellent, i can get started on this now.

Gruff

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