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Offline archneko

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I don't know the title of the movie, but it has to do with a pianist who had a famous teacher and was training with him to become a famous pianist. The pianist was practicing the song I wanted to play. More details are, that in one concerto, he passed out and next scene was him inside a psychward. The pianist went crazy  because of the concerto and starts to stutter ever time he talks. He started playing in his apartment with such speed that the piano started to smoke, and his apartment manager complained and took away his piano.
  If anyone knows the song of when he was training with his teacher, please post it! :-[

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #1 on: September 02, 2006, 02:26:54 AM
I don't know the title of the movie, but it has to do with a pianist who had a famous teacher and was training with him to become a famous pianist. The pianist was practicing the song I wanted to play. More details are, that in one concerto, he passed out and next scene was him inside a psychward. The pianist went crazy  because of the concerto and starts to stutter ever time he talks. He started playing in his apartment with such speed that the piano started to smoke, and his apartment manager complained and took away his piano.
  If anyone knows the song of when he was training with his teacher, please post it! :-[

The movie is "Shine" and it is based on true events.

The pianist is David Helfgott.

The piece (it is not a "song") is possibly the 3rd piano concerto by Rachmaninoff.

The piano did not start to smoke, Helfgott was actually smoking a cigarrette. And the manager complained because of the noise, not the smoke (you may be confusing this movie with another one: "The legend of 1900", which is not based in real events and it is more of a fairy tale. In that movie, the pianist after playing some piece of intermediate difficulty - but that looks to the uninitiated as difficult - lights his cigarrette on the "hot" strings, which is of course, physically, wishful thinking.)

Before you embark on Rach 3 and end up on the mental ward, why not have a look at this thread:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4166.msg39337.html#msg39337
(Why play rach 3? Tale of the Japanese cooking apprentice and initiative)

Also, have you ever heard this piece in its entirety? or just a few seconds of it in the movie? (It is a pretty dull piece, if you ask me ;)). Are you sure you want to play it? (Better make sure you have an orchestra nearby to accompany you)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #2 on: September 02, 2006, 01:20:20 PM
I remember there was one more piece that the teacher and David was working on. It was the part where the teacher encouraged David to put more feeling as David was playing.

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #3 on: September 02, 2006, 06:58:11 PM
I remember there was one more piece that the teacher and David was working on. It was the part where the teacher encouraged David to put more feeling as David was playing.

If i remember correctly it was La Campanella by Liszt. He said something like: "Notes first, interpretation after" :D
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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 12:00:11 AM
If i remember correctly it was La Campanella by Liszt.
that's the one I thought of too.  However, later, there is a scene where David is working on the first movement cadenza from Rach's 3rd concerto.   To determine which one it was, have a listen to:

a) Paganini Etude No. 3 "La Campanella", by Liszt

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b) Piano Concerto No. 3, Mov I, by Rachmaninoff -about 10:00 min. in, there is an extended cadenza the piano plays

and let us know which one it was

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 11:12:09 AM
yes! its la campanella! Thank you ever so much! :) Now to find that song.... Off to the books store!!

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 12:11:42 PM

Also, have you ever heard this piece in its entirety? or just a few seconds of it in the movie? (It is a pretty dull piece, if you ask me ;)). Are you sure you want to play it? (Better make sure you have an orchestra nearby to accompany you)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.


Bernhard, i am surprised you find Rach 3 dull...
It has very nice melodies, good orchestration, a good balance between piano and orchestra etc etc. I am not a musicologist expert, of course, but i beleive it is a wonderfull concerto.
Why dull?  :o :o

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 08:23:54 PM
Bernhard, i am surprised you find Rach 3 dull...
It has very nice melodies, good orchestration, a good balance between piano and orchestra etc etc. I am not a musicologist expert, of course, but i beleive it is a wonderfull concerto.
Why dull?  :o :o

Of course it is a wonderful piece. I was not making a comment on the piece, but on my reaction to it. What can I say? I find it dull :-[. I also find most of the women in fashion magazine covers exceedingly ugly. Of course they are very beautiful. yet, somehow my feelings when looking at them are of ugliness. The comment is on me, not on the women (or Rach).

 (maybe there is something wrong wth me after all);)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)

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Re: I'm trying to find this one song from a movie. (Please Help)
Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 11:48:28 PM
Of course it is a wonderful piece. I was not making a comment on the piece, but on my reaction to it. What can I say? I find it dull :-[. I also find most of the women in fashion magazine covers exceedingly ugly. Of course they are very beautiful. yet, somehow my feelings when looking at them are of ugliness. The comment is on me, not on the women (or Rach).

 (maybe there is something wrong wth me after all);)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

As Goethe said, "I hate all things Egyptian.  But I am glad: one must have something to dislike."

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