computer games!!!

[runescapeboy]

do any of you play computer games? (please put game name) thanks 

[debussy symbolism]

Greetings.

Computer games are a bane of learning. I truly and utterly detest them for other reasons too. Everyone is very mean. I used to play the computer games when I was alot younger, but realised that I would not get anywhere with them. My sister on the other hand, spends all day on them during weekends, and the rest of the day after school playing those same on line games. Can you guess the game's name?

She does absolutely nothing by herself, and that also reflects in her game playing. Always chatting, always doing things with "friends". Always asking for group help. I hate group help.

[nanabush]

Sometimes if I'm bored, I'll go to newgrounds.com and find a random flash game to play for like 10-15 minutes... Other than that [I do have computer games], but I never play them; the only video games I play are on Xbox 360, and that's occasionally on a weekend.  If I'm not playing piano, I'm out somewhere, be it work or movie w/e, I never have time to just sit and play a computer game 

[quantum]

I've never been a gamer, even in childhood I've never owned one of those console gaming systems. 

However there is one computer game I play on occasion, It's called Descent.  Not as popular as Doom or Duke Nukem.  I'd also play the computer version of Monopoly. 

I like chess and poker, but prefer to play along with real people as it is just more exciting. 

[nicco]

Greetings.

Computer games are a bane of learning.

jesus CHRIST man! life is not all about learning! its about having FUN! talking with friends, being social etc. experiencing life for the short time you have it!

[nortti]

I like learning. It's my way of having fun. Being social is just tiring.
As for games, I sometimes play them (maybe once in a year nowadays...) Mostly some good adventure games.
Look! It's a three-headed monkey!

[thalbergmad]

I undoubtedly spend too much time on my playstation, but it is a great stress reliever.

When i come home from work, i usually play GTA San Andreas.

There is nothing like cutting up a few prossies with a chainsaw to vent your anger.

I have played all the Tomb Raider series, but have not started the most recent one yet.

Out of all the games i have played, the Tiger Woods Golf 2006 rulez.

Thal

[debussy symbolism]

There is nothing wrong with playing a video game occasionally, but getting addicted to one is another thing. I have read some stories where some teenager practically spend his entire life in front of a video game. They can go on for weeks and months straight without any sleep or relaxation. Afterwards they die from overstress. When I was younger I used to play some video games, but afterwards it came to me that that path doesn't lead to any good so I naturally was confronted with deciding what to spend my time in: video games, or education. Of course I chose education.

[nicco]

i would say a healthy mix is the way to go

im gonna dl tiger woods golf...see if its as good as thal says...

[shoenberg3]

In my younger days, I played a lot of nintendo, which, i claim, helped my hand dexterity.

Now, i sometimes play Half life 2, which is really a masterpiece of a game.

[Kassaa]

There is nothing wrong with playing a video game occasionally, but getting addicted to one is another thing. I have read some stories where some teenager practically spend his entire life in front of a video game. They can go on for weeks and months straight without any sleep or relaxation. Afterwards they die from overstress. When I was younger I used to play some video games, but afterwards it came to me that that path doesn't lead to any good so I naturally was confronted with deciding what to spend my time in: video games, or education. Of course I chose education.

That does not represent a normal gamer. 

Anyway, I have played World of Warcraft for almost a year, and now I play the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, which is a great game, although the framerate isn't too good on my pc.

[shoenberg3]

That does not represent a normal gamer. 

Anyway, I have played World of Warcraft for almost a year, and now I play the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, which is a great game, although the framerate isn't too good on my pc.

Started playing that few days ago. My computer feels really inadequate. Getting around 15-20 FPS with 800 x 600 and everything mostly on medium. How is your rig managing this?

[rlefebvr]

Computer games are addictive. They are built that way.

Talk to anyone who has played Elder Scrolls, Sim City, Civilization, Sims, Balder's Gate, Wolfeinstein, final fantasy to name but a few of the great ones.

So what....life is addictive. Just name your poison.

You think spending 3 to 4 hours a day in front of a piano is not an addiction....

Spending 3 hours playing video games is an addiction, but spending your night watching TV is not?

Anyway, don't get me started. Same people who took the Road Runner off TV because it was too violent. 2 years later, they had Power Rangers on TV.
That was not violent. Nooooo. Sold a lot of toys though. Didnt' it.



Think about it.

[leahcim]

I have read some stories where some teenager practically spend his entire life in front of a video game. They can go on for weeks and months straight without any sleep or relaxation. Afterwards they die from overstress.

Yeah, all those teenagers dropping dead, it's in the papers every day

I notice they don't have a "book generation", or a "piano generation" in the way that someone invented a "playstation generation" of fat spotty teens with heart disease.

You can, you would have thought, sit happily on your arse 365/24/7 reading a book or playing the piano and you won't have a group of people decide that some action needs to be taken against books because people read them a lot, and as a result they don't run out in the fields so their arses grow too big and they die.

No, the kind of lard you get on your backside from book reading is different in nature from that you get from, say, using a playstation or, programming a computer, or typing a thesis rather than writing it with a pen. Be warned, sitting and reading exactly the same thing on a computer screen for the same length of time as you might read it on paper will clog your arteries.

Make sure you don't educate yourself in any subject that needs an LCD screen

Years ago before most people could read and write and had no education they weren't wasting their time playing computer games which have no educational value. Err.

[Kassaa]

Started playing that few days ago. My computer feels really inadequate. Getting around 15-20 FPS with 800 x 600 and everything mostly on medium. How is your rig managing this?

Well, not. Same framerate as you have, and often drops under 10 fps. Although it's beautiful, the engine is really sucky coded, like in Morrowind.

[lisztisforkids]

As far as computer games can go, they can all go to hell. They have completely taken over my little brother, he spends maybe 8-10 hours a day playing runescape. Its just another drug in a different package. Its completley destroyed him.

[Kassaa]

As far as computer games can go, they can all go to hell. They have completely taken over my little brother, he spends maybe 8-10 hours a day playing runescape. Its just another drug in a different package. Its completley destroyed him.

Don't blame games, blame irresponsible parents.

[prometheus]

The only reason why I played computer games, and still do every once in a while, is to escape from reality. One doesn't want to do that. One would also waste time that can be used for other things.

So one needs to avoid wanting to play computer games.


Luckily, today most games created compelety suck.

[pianolearner]

1) I started playing Age of Empires 2 again and managed to beat the computer as 2 opponents teamed together from easy all the way to hardest. I usually only play during quiet times at work, like night shifts and weekends.

2) I have Silent Scope 1,2,3 for Xbox but don't play it very often.

3) I occassionally challenge another work colleague at FreeCell. We select the same game and the first one to complete it wins. He is way ahead, the score is around 27 - 12. This has been going on for over 2 years.

[debussy symbolism]

Don't blame games, blame irresponsible parents.

Sometimes that doesn't do the trick. My parents have tried to even block the game that my sister plays(World of Warcraft) with a password, but she managed to break it, partly because of my mother's carelessness about actually consealing the password. It's a paradox to me how the kids can stay on 10 hours on a game every day and still be able to live. When I was young I also played computer games, but no more than a couple of hours. After that I was sick of them. She however, my sister, stays on literally 10 hours (during summer vacation) and doesn't complain. I once asked her, "would you want to play perhaps all day straight"? She answered with, "No!! I'm not crazy". Hilarious. Like 10 hours of computer games isn't crazy. I just can't comprehend how someone can even function after playing that long without confusing life with game. I wish I could practice piano 10 hours a day!

[leahcim]

Luckily, today most games created compelety suck.

How would you know that if you didn't play them?

[debussy symbolism]

The computer games are practically uneducational, promote violence, and greatly distract children and even adults from doing any meaningfull work. If these games are truthfully labeled as having the quality of being called a "suck", then how is it that so many children and even adults are hooked onto them. Aside from the children spending the entire day on them, I am sure that alot of adults also greatly depend on these games. What are your opinions on this matter?

[leahcim]

Sometimes that doesn't do the trick. My parents have tried to even block the game that my sister plays(World of Warcraft) with a password, but she managed to break it, partly because of my mother's carelessness about actually consealing the password.

Sheesh kebab. Parenting isn't about putting a password on a computer game is it?

What is your parents issue with the game?

Does the fact it's a playing a game matter or just using a computer or just because it's something they read in the paper they should worry about?

It can't be anything to do with it not being reality, your parents, if they are like most, will be scared stiff of you having anything to do with reality.

I spent 8-10 hours a day, more sometimes, sitting in front of a computer writing computer software. They called that a job. I didn't see anything in the paper about the terrible harm it was going to cause.

At least not until a bunch of buffoons started buying PCs, one for every home / one for every office desk. 10 or 15 years after I'd started doing it. Then everything from the chair you sat in, the keyboard you typed on and the screen you looked at were going to cripple you, blind you and folk were melting in offices. Odd that I survived really.

Some people do the same things 8 hours or more, with far more mundane repetative tasks as jobs.

Careful, if you play piano for more than 3 hours, you'll go blind, and a badger dies!

[debussy symbolism]

My parent's issue with the game is that the child isn't advancing mentally, but degradating. With all due respect, I wouldn't want to see my sister end up with a brainless job living a dead life. Working with computers is a job that supposedly helps the world so therefore it is usefull. Computer games on the otherhand are not usefull in large quantities. My sister can draw, a skill that I consecrate and gretly respect due to it's beauty. My sister abandoned drawing, largely because of lack of interest, but guess why the interest waned. The computer games completely left her with literally no time for anything else.

[leahcim]

My parent's issue with the game is that the child isn't advancing mentally, but degradating. With all due respect, I wouldn't want to see my sister end up with a brainless job living a dead life.

Of course not, but most people will, and indeed, if you want your sister to have a big TV and all that other stuff, other people will be doing those jobs that you think are beneath her. But, that is nothing but a game. All people who work are in brainless jobs, unless they are one of the very few that get the rich rewards, you're basically trying that game and losing it. Drawing's not going to help her.

Get your sister to try this experiment, print off the alleged proof of the poincare conjecture by Grisha Perelman and say "Hey Ma, Pa, I'm having a problem with this, I think this bit here on page 53 is wrong, what do you think?". The blank look on their faces should satisfy her that playing the computer game isn't going to damage what isn't there in the first place

Neither will it do any harm to the bits that are there. Rinse and repeat with some other subject if you like.

Working with computers is a job that supposedly helps the world so therefore it is usefull.

Oh please, do you get your moral ideas from watching Lizzie Mcguire or something?

Computer games on the otherhand are not usefull in large quantities. My sister can draw, a skill that I consecrate and gretly respect due to it's beauty. My sister abandoned drawing, largely because of lack of interest, but guess why the interest waned. The computer games completely left her with literally no time for anything else.

What could your parents do? What did they give up in order to do whatever they do
now? Do you think having kids is therefore bad?

For me, 2 years of saying "Goo goo gaa gaa" that increased my intelligence no end I can tell you. So did sitting through bambi and the jungle book. I've even been known to visit a park and kick a football around - a well known activity of the intellectual. Teaching someone to count to 10, that was a high point in my parental career - something that compared well with reading that book on Galois theory a few years before.

I can't wait for the teenage years either, there's no doubt in my mind the last 30 years I've spent researching have really been to work up to that climax where I get to converse with a group of teenagers again and I once again experience true genius, and pay for it to sit around the house. Yes, if destroying computer games is necessary to get that, why are we even having the debate?....think of the children!! I've just thrown the playstation in the bin

It certainly seems to share a lot of the things you believe computer games have that make it bad (a) It's addictive (b) It requires no intelligence, worms can do it (c) it's violent and, unlike computer games, that's real pain and real blood.

(d) It takes a lot of time away from doing things like drawing or solving the energy crisis or whatever else you fancy you might have done if only it weren't for the pesky kids [Who didn't turn out to be Mozart either, the blighters and now worst of all, they're playing computer games! I thought buying the computer would make them more cleverer than what I was, I guess in a way by being that dumb I've given them that chance]

(e) It often involves a heap of activities that by themselves are considered 'brainless jobs', cooking, cleaning, putting passwords on computer games and so on

(f) It's expensive. Which might mean rather than drawing or playing the piano or whatever activity expands your mind means working on a job that is anything but educational or vocational to get enough money to clothe, feed them and buy them computers [why though? I can't think of any reason to give a child a computer other than games - except the ones that someone is now going to type, which should give us a laugh ]

(g) It requires that you sleep with the opposite sex, which I include merely because that might reduce the chances of you being a good pianist by at least 50% [Not entirely sure about that one, see Horowitz for more details]

[thalbergmad]

The only reason why I played computer games, and still do every once in a while, is to escape from reality.

I think you manage that here sometimes old chap .

Thal

[pianistimo]

debussy symbolism,  my middle daughter loves to draw, too -  but my hubby was worried about the same things as your parents because she started playing computer games more, too.  so, he bought her a fairly extensive drawing tablet for computer.  wacom intuios 6x 8  whatever that is.  anyway.  it teaches the fine points of drawing.  i went into her room to put away clothing and found a really wonderful piece of art the other day.  it was simply one eye and eyebrow - but the proportions were more realistic than i ever saw her draw before.  in fact, i was stunned.  she is only 11 and it looked like an 18+ year old had done it.  i'm serious.  get her a drawing tablet and art program and she'll be back at it. 

[debussy symbolism]

My parents have done everything, from lessons of course to the drawing material. Nothing seems to work. Again, I think that it is just a matter of time before she realizes that computer games aren't a way to go.

[pianistimo]

yes. addictions are addictions.  this is year #2 for my son.  a serious addiction.  last year he did kinda poorly at school.  this year things are looking up because he finally admitted he had a problem.  everyone kept telling him - but you have to realize it yourself.  realign priorities.  even now - computer is #1 - homework #2  it's frustrating to me sometimes because he is very smart but he thinks that he is more 'accomplished' at games than schoolwork.

in talking to teachers, our aim of just letting him get 'tired' of the games- doesn't work.  you have to start treating them a couple of years younger and just take away the computer entirely when work isn't completed.  my hubby uses it now as a reward instead of something automatic when my son gets home.  he hates the discipline - but he knows and recognizes that we don't want him to fail school over stupid computer games.  that he has to graduate.

[debussy symbolism]

Yes, you are correct. A number of times my sister claimed that she was bored with the game. 5 minutes later, guess what, she was right back at it. Even if by some chance she does get bored of it to the point of actually abstaining from playing that particular game, she will pick up another. Confiscating the games and using them as a reward is the only way in my opinion.

[leahcim]

last year he did kinda poorly at school.

Nothing to do with his mother breaking her leg and spending all her time addicted to talking about God and piano and God in internet forums then?

[leahcim]

I suspect a different underlying issue here, you can't really have that much issue over  some comparison between your moral views on the virtues of spending time "drawing" rather than "playing computer games" - what does your sister playing computer games really mean for you that it hurts so much?

Are you that convinced you are right that you would be prepared to have your schedule / timetable decided by your family too, so her opinion about what you do counts too?

If your sister really is escaping reality [and most kids playing computer games for a long time are just playing computer games for a long time], you might want to ask why, especially if that reality is the same family life you're enjoying and why exactly you think telling her computer games are bad and punishing her will make her rush back.

[pianistimo]

what else do you do when you break a leg.  hey, today i did a lot of stuff besides the computer.  but, i think it is an addiction i must break because whenever i get a free moment, i'm on the computer, too.  piano forum to be exact.  i don't really even have any other sites i visit.  maybe googling a word.  that's about it.  and checking my e-mail.  of which, i had nothing important today. 

ok.  when you watch housecleaners come into your house - they come in pairs or threes.  now, just think of your mom.  she is one person doing three people's jobs.  today, for instance i clean three bathrooms.  can't one other person clean one of these.  that's a dream.  if i don't clean - nobody does it.  or at least not to my satisfaction. 

then, i get tired.  what with my leg and all. so i go and sit down at the computer in between jobs. 

[leahcim]

what else do you do when you break a leg.

*** all. I was reading your posts.

But in a thread where we're all pretending our activities are morally superior to those other dumb dudes that just play computer games. Obviously if we broke our leges, we'd be solving hard maths problems, writing concertos, designing award winning buildings in autocad and so on. Maybe catch up on the email to the UN.

But of course, if you could only think to argue on pianostreet .... 

[kony]

1) I started playing Age of Empires 2 again and managed to beat the computer as 2 opponents teamed together from easy all the way to hardest. I usually only play during quiet times at work, like night shifts and weekends.

which civ do you play?

As far as computer games can go, they can all go to hell. They have completely taken over my little brother, he spends maybe 8-10 hours a day playing runescape. Its just another drug in a different package. Its completley destroyed him.

he should be nearing that level 126 then.

[runescapeboy]

As far as computer games can go, they can all go to hell. They have completely taken over my little brother, he spends maybe 8-10 hours a day playing runescape. Its just another drug in a different package. Its completley destroyed him.


its obvious im a so called "computer game lover but HEY THAT DOSN't STOP ME FROM PLAYING THE PIANO

[instromp]

I play an online game called 'Rappelz'

Its really fun when  get the hang of it, I play it for about an hour or 2.It has great graphics to be a free beta online game.

[debussy symbolism]

I suspect a different underlying issue here, you can't really have that much issue over  some comparison between your moral views on the virtues of spending time "drawing" rather than "playing computer games" - what does your sister playing computer games really mean for you that it hurts so much?

Are you that convinced you are right that you would be prepared to have your schedule / timetable decided by your family too, so her opinion about what you do counts too?

If your sister really is escaping reality [and most kids playing computer games for a long time are just playing computer games for a long time], you might want to ask why, especially if that reality is the same family life you're enjoying and why exactly you think telling her computer games are bad and punishing her will make her rush back.

I have nothing against computer games. I have something against perpetual computer games that take up most of the day. The reason is simply this: they make you dumb. The computer games don't make you dumb per se, but the lack of studying does. If you don't study, you don't grow. If you play computer games all day long, then how could you possibly have the time to study?

[imbetter]

Runescape guy, runescape is the beset video game ever! I've been playing it for two years and im lvl 88. If you tell me your username I'll add you in game

[imbetter]

Oh yeah, and you guys have to chill out. Enjoy life, have fun with it. I think if you guys got away from the world and had some fun.

[meiz_yoo]

o 2 jam?

[donjuan]

I have nothing against computer games. I have something against perpetual computer games that take up most of the day. The reason is simply this: they make you dumb. The computer games don't make you dumb per se, but the lack of studying does. If you don't study, you don't grow. If you play computer games all day long, then how could you possibly have the time to study?

holy f$%king hell! Are you always on?

ok, just so you know, not all gamers are like this:

I happen to enjoy my Need For Speed, Grand Theft Auto, and Splinter Cell collections very much.  Wasted time isnt wasted if you enjoyed wasting it.  Even with my hectic university schedule, I try to watch a movie at least every 2 days.

Maybe you havent realized it yet, but if you don't schedule time to kick back, you'll burn yourself out.  This is an especially big problem in asian kids with crazy parents.  and then the kids grow up to be mediocre; worse off than the kids who had a blast playing video games.