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Offline pianistimo

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can somebody explain dvorph points?
on: September 03, 2006, 05:41:02 PM
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 06:07:30 PM
they pretty much speak for themselves, dont you think?
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 09:19:29 PM
but i want to know how to exactly calculate.  there must be a system like this for advanced teachers.  how else do they know the next piece the student should work on?  where can i find a dvorph rating.  consumer reports?  i want to see the round indicators with colors.  also,  i want a hand-held dvorphing i-pod to point at piano music and indicate to me how hard it is.

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 10:48:12 PM
but i want to know how to exactly calculate.  there must be a system like this for advanced teachers.  how else do they know the next piece the student should work on?  where can i find a dvorph rating.  consumer reports?  i want to see the round indicators with colors.  also,  i want a hand-held dvorphing i-pod to point at piano music and indicate to me how hard it is.

I second that. ;D

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 11:01:37 PM
The only google search result for "dvorph"



seems to have to do st with speed...

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 01:43:08 AM
i see.  speed.  so the faster and more difficult music is just gauged as to how many notes are in one measure vs the slower music with fewer notes.  or, if the music has 3-4 staves? obviously it can't be something sightread the first time.  maybe people stumble by the third or fourth measure on a harder dvorph pointed piece?

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 01:53:22 AM
Here's how to calculate dvorph pionts;

Using an ordinary hexideca prism shift, shimy the bogets (to at least the 12th partial), flange the scransoms in topwise, logarhythmic succesion, then turek over (but not within) all 3 raedit.
The result should give you an faily accurate estimate of the dvorph factor in a basic BSC2 code.

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 02:18:50 AM
you read too much harry potter.  i'm serious.  i want to know.  somebody. anybody. help!

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 02:53:51 AM
Funny thing is I've never read Harry Potter... any of it. That post was inspired by Monty Python more than anything.
If you want to know about dvorph points see "Liszt's Transcendental Studies" and "The Dvorph" in the perfomance section of the forum.

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 07:52:17 AM
okey, here is the way of calculating the dvorph points.

First think of a number,
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 08:52:22 AM
oh.  liszt's trancendentals studies thread, ehh.  ok.  i will go look.

make up a number?  any number?  for any particular piece and then someday everyone will put these numbers together in some kind of order - and we'll have a sort of graded scale for these very difficult pieces according to people who've played them?

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 06:14:17 PM
What is dvorph?  One of the piano difficulty rating scales?
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #12 on: September 04, 2006, 06:53:58 PM
What is dvorph?  One of the piano difficulty rating scales?

its the ultimate system in wich you can rate anything
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 07:46:11 PM
Actually, by reading this post you can deduct something rather easily. Either dvorph is non-sense or no one knows what dvorph is, which makes it even more useless.
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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #14 on: September 05, 2006, 04:07:25 AM
Actually, by reading this post you can deduct something rather easily. Either dvorph is non-sense or no one knows what dvorph is, which makes it even more useless.
Not entirely useless. It's a good subject for talking nonsense. I'm sure Lewis Carroll would have been very interested in the "dvorph".

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #15 on: September 05, 2006, 04:54:01 AM
Here's how to calculate dvorph pionts;

Using an ordinary hexideca prism shift, shimy the bogets (to at least the 12th partial), flange the scransoms in topwise, logarhythmic succesion, then turek over (but not within) all 3 raedit.
The result should give you an faily accurate estimate of the dvorph factor in a basic BSC2 code.
You forgot the voblicity of the air!

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Re: can somebody explain dvorph points?
Reply #16 on: September 05, 2006, 07:52:59 AM
Its a way of answering the un-answerable. Take the problem of 1=0.999..., this is 3 parts integrated dvorph.
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