The forum constitution contradicts values.

[debussy symbolism]

Greetings.

I am well aware that many members of this forum aren't from USA, so the many values of the land may or may not directly apply there, however. Is it not a betrayal of the American constitution to censor some of the content of the forum, because of the notion of "freedom of speech and press"? I am sure that such treatment is internecine to both the poster and the people's values, in which the poster may or may not have had the chance of his threads getting to the public, bad merit or not; and the people, for whom such censorship may prove perfidious to the American constitution.

In no way am I a supporter of porn or otherwise "inapropriate" content, or am I trying to start an acrimonious argument. I am just wondering on how the forum moderators respond to American beliefs about the freedom of speech. If I am missing out on the information concerning the freedom to censor in public forums, please let me know.

[debussy symbolism]

I undestand my own quesiton now. One can post whatever he wants, but that information loses it's protection when posted and is bound to be either altered or non altered by forum authorities.

[ada]

I undestand my own quesiton now.

I'm glad someone does 

[nicco]

I am sure that such treatment is internecine

such censorship may prove perfidious

am I trying to start an acrimonious argument.

a good way to get opinions is to write so everyone understands you. i dont think everyone here is a walking dictionary.

[nilsjohan]

I am just wondering on how the forum moderators respond to American beliefs about the freedom of speech.

As far as I know those beliefs and laws are quite identical here in Europe and we are fully supporting those ideals.

If I am missing out on the information concerning the freedom to censor in public forums, please let me know.

I think your mistake is to regard this privately owned website as a "public forum" (whatever you mean by that) which it isn't.
We allow you to post messages and material here under the conditions stated in the forum agreement which all members have agreed to when signing up.

[allthumbs]

a good way to get opinions is to write so everyone understands you. i dont think everyone here is a walking dictionary.

Hey, that's a good way to learn new words.

I just highlight the word and click in my computer dictionary.

[debussy symbolism]

As far as I know those beliefs and laws are quite identical here in Europe and we are fully supporting those ideals.

I think your mistake is to regard this privately owned website as a "public forum" (whatever you mean by that) which it isn't.
We allow you to post messages and material here under the conditions stated in the forum agreement which all members have agreed to when signing up.

Yes you are right about the agreement part. I haven't thought of that

[debussy symbolism]

Hey, that's a good way to learn new words.

I just highlight the word and click in my computer dictionary.

Hey good for you.

[leucippus]

I think your mistake is to regard this privately owned website as a "public forum" (whatever you mean by that) which it isn't.

EXACTLY!

The idea of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, etc. simply means that a government cannot arrest someone for voicing an opinion, nor can they dictate what people print etc. (although they actually do these things anyway to a large degree)

In any case, those ideals do not in anyway apply to private enterprises.  Private enterprises are free to choose what they will print, not print, or edit from their content.  They are not the government and therefore they are not bound by those rules.

A radio talk show, for example, does not have to air every phone call they get.  They aren't obligated to let people speak.  In fact, that are fully within the law to bias their talk shows (and they often do this).   Religious stations are the ultimate practitioners of "censorship" by exercising their freedom to edit or censor whatever they chose.

[debussy symbolism]

Yeah, so pretty much it all comes down to, "yeah, you try to say whatever you want, but good luck getting anything through to others". You are right about the government insinuating censorship or otherwise in full control of it. This notion has been rightfully assesed by George Orwell in "Animal Farm" and "1984".

[leucippus]

Yeah, so pretty much it all comes down to, "yeah, you try to say whatever you want, but good luck getting anything through to others".

That's right.  You have the right to say anything you want.  But everyone else has just as much right not to listen. 

On a private forum the owners have the right to delete whatever posts they want.  All they are doing is exercising their right to not listen to what you have to say.  That's not really censorship.

Why isn't it censorship?  Because you have the right to go off and start a forum of your very own somewhere else and say whatever you like.  No one is preventing you from speaking.  They are merely closing the doors of their medium as a vehicle for your speech which is totally within their right to do.

In other words,… just because you have a right to speak doesn't mean that anyone else is obligated to hold the microphone for you.

[leahcim]

a good way to get opinions is to write so everyone understands you. i dont think everyone here is a walking dictionary.

It's aesthetic appeal [although you don't like the look of the post so it failed] I suspect the poster has been fooled recently, perhaps over and over again by similar wordings - possibly in some place of higher education and has started to copy them. Ponce talking often takes hold for a while even amongst the most sincere in those places.

"Those wily pianostreet forumers won't disagree with me when I innoculate my perfunctious adverbs with a terse gribbing and a dire flange of onomatinations. How I shall flanigrate the blithy pigwarts from their immoral conbobulating emissions"

Since it's an American the best course of action is to start to agree with everything they say. Especially since the answer to "is it not a betrayal of the American constitution to censor some of the content of the forum, because of the notion of "freedom of speech and press"? should be a terse and honest wake up like "Don't be such a £$"£ing twat" - there's nothing there that a thesaurus or dictionary is going to help, nor is pandering to them by answering the question politely going to achieve much either - the poster thinks we're the ones being educated, hence the pontification.

But if they think the attempt to dress up their posts with bollocks appears to have worked at least the monster that's being created won't be in our backyard

[gorbee natcase]

At the end of the day you are in effect at nilsjohans house so obey his house rules

[ada]

It's aesthetic appeal [although you don't like the look of the post so it failed] I suspect the poster has been fooled recently, perhaps over and over again by similar wordings - possibly in some place of higher education and has started to copy them. Ponce talking often takes hold for a while even amongst the most sincere in those places.

"Those wily pianostreet forumers won't disagree with me when I innoculate my perfunctious adverbs with a terse gribbing and a dire flange of onomatinations. How I shall flanigrate the blithy pigwarts from their immoral conbobulating emissions"

Since it's an American the best course of action is to start to agree with everything they say. Especially since the answer to "is it not a betrayal of the American constitution to censor some of the content of the forum, because of the notion of "freedom of speech and press"? should be a terse and honest wake up like "Don't be such a £$"£ing twat" - there's nothing there that a thesaurus or dictionary is going to help, nor is pandering to them by answering the question politely going to achieve much either - the poster thinks we're the ones being educated, hence the pontification.

But if they think the attempt to dress up their posts with bollocks appears to have worked at least the monster that's being created won't be in our backyard

hahahahahahah

I reckon we should have a plain english policy at PF.  NO pretentious wanky words. NO rambling incoherent sentences. No unintelligible obfuscation or inordinately overblown verbosity 
 
Believe me DB your posts are funniest and smartest when they are short.

It's very good to know big words and I am all for expanding your vocabulary, but over-use of them doesn't make you sound clever, just impossible to understand 

[gorbee natcase]

Witty signature you have there ada 

[arensky]

 the monster that's being created won't be in our backyard

Too late. It's in your living room, eating your food, watching TV and hitting on your kids. 

And you let it in. 

[debussy symbolism]

And yet you still use them. 

Oh! Look at what I have done!