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« on: January 18, 2004, 07:16:40 AM »

Beethoven wrote this piece in one day......didnt bother to give it an opus number......how did it become one of the most widely reconized piece of all time?  Its not beethovens best or hardest (of course lol) but WHY?!?!?!  Its driviing me crazy!!!!!!  
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piano sheet music of Für Elise
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2004, 08:18:48 AM »

Look at the Fantaisie Impromptu, Eine Kleine Nacht Musik, Chopin's second nocturne, or the 1st mvmnt of the moonlight.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2004, 12:56:03 PM »

Here is a plausible explanation why Beethoven bothered to compose it. Grin

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/beethoventheory.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2004, 12:58:32 PM »

This keeps happening (some internal censorship system, I believe). Angry

Replace "intellectualsleepers" in the web site above by "intellectualwh*res" (replace the asterisk with "o").
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2004, 07:37:06 PM »

thats way too funny
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2004, 11:51:21 PM »

but it sounds like it can be very true:D
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2004, 12:22:41 PM »

hello,regarding Beethoven's Fur Elise..Its a simple and short piece which i believe the Master doesn't intend to to put on his major repertoires..It was actually put under the categories on "WoO" or Werke Ohne Opuzal or Works with Out Opus numbers..It's tagged at
WoO #25.. Smiley  
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 01:23:52 PM »

The theory is VERY interesting. And extremely funny.

Fur Elise, like all the other pieces mentioned previously, is popular because it is catchy. Simple, huh?
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2004, 10:49:41 PM »

"Because he used it to score more pussy than a bonobo. "

LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2004, 11:57:01 PM »

That´s Wrong..
First I Have To Say That Fur Elise is a nice piece very easy..
And About the Opus... He didnt need to put an opus because Fur Elise isn´t a piece like the others.
Fur Elise is a Bagatelle and it has it number right now i dont remember but.. years ago this was discovered.
I hope this answer your question...
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2004, 05:06:18 PM »

the reason that it has no opus number is because it was never released by beethoven to anyone, the piece was found after his death... furthermore, its really for a woman named THERESE, but the people that found it made a mistake in what was written... he composed it for a woman he was in love with... and like the will he wrote when he was still rather young, it was never for anyone but himself... seems like he liked to put his thoughts and feelings on paper, and then never do anything about such documents...

therese probably never saw or heard the piece...
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2004, 07:54:12 PM »

im convinced that he used this song to get laid, i got to try it one day.....
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2004, 09:58:08 PM »

Fur Elise was composed for one of Beethoven’s students, Therese Malfatti.

She was the daughter of Beethoven’s doctor (Beethoven had a string of medical specialists looking at his ear problem over the years. Malfatti was one of the last ones).

When he started teaching her he was over 40, she was 17. It did not prevent him falling heads over heels in love with her (he was always doing this). He allegedly composed Fur Elise at her request – Therese not being a particularly accomplished pianist, he made the piece as simple as possible.

Apparently Beethoven believed for a while that his feelings were reciprocated, but it turned out that nothing of the sort had ever crossed  Therese’s mind.  In fact she married a Baron Drosdick soon afterwards. Cry

That’s when Beethoven added the second part (so that she – and Richard Clayderman - could not play it). Grin

It has no opus number because it was never published in his life time. In fact, in all probability it was never intended for publication.

It is called Fur Elise instead of Fur Therese on account of Beethoven's terrible handwriting.

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Bernhard.

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2004, 02:19:05 AM »

i Dont think that´s true Berharnd.
What I Said I think its the true because one grandson from beethoven or a relative i dont know told that he didit as a bagatelle for an ex-beethoven couple..And in a rolling stone magazine /(old one which talked about music said the same and that the piece was find with "to elise"in the cover so they dont know what was the name and they used fur elise.
Im pretty sure bout that. and if someone has a doubt just send a msg.
Bye.
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