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Offline verywellmister

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Schumann novelette op.21
on: September 25, 2006, 05:47:25 PM
I absolutely love the final novelette in the Schumann Op.21.  This is definitely a piece I want to learn in the future.  I watched somebody perform it at a competition and it looks tough to play.  Is it much harder than the Ravel Sonatine?  Thanks.

What are your opinions on the Novelettes?
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #1 on: September 25, 2006, 09:10:02 PM
I absolutely love the final novelette in the Schumann Op.21.  This is definitely a piece I want to learn in the future.  I watched somebody perform it at a competition and it looks tough to play.  Is it much harder than the Ravel Sonatine?  Thanks.

What are your opinions on the Novelettes?

Are they programmatic pieces?
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 12:21:31 AM
Are they programmatic pieces?
What do you mean by programmatic? There are eight, the commonly played ones are no.1 and no.8(I haven't heard anyone play these live before, and couldn't find mp3s of nos.2~7). It should be ARCT level methinks(Canada).
That's the price you pay for being moderate in everything.  See, if I were you, my name would be Ilovepie.  But that's just me.

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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 12:51:11 AM
What do you mean by programmatic? There are eight, the commonly played ones are no.1 and no.8(I haven't heard anyone play these live before, and couldn't find mp3s of nos.2~7). It should be ARCT level methinks(Canada).
Do they tell a story?
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 01:14:58 AM
Do they tell a story?
No, as far as I know.
That's the price you pay for being moderate in everything.  See, if I were you, my name would be Ilovepie.  But that's just me.

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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 01:18:01 AM
No, as far as I know.
I was thinking about that because of their name "Novelette" which I thought might have some relationship with novels. :P Maybe it means something else.
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #6 on: September 26, 2006, 01:53:50 PM
I had to learn the first one for my Trinity performer's certificate. They are demanding technically but when you get a grasp of them, they become quite fun to play. The best recording that I have heard is Richter, although many great pianists have recorded parts or one or two of them.

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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 09:18:15 PM
They are demanding technically but when you get a grasp of them, they become quite fun to play.

Exactly how demanding?  I play the Ravel Sonatine.  do you think I could handle it?
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 10:54:08 PM
Exactly how demanding?  I play the Ravel Sonatine.  do you think I could handle it?
I played no.1 as a grade 10 exam piece. Both no.2 and no.8 are ARCT(Canada). Ravel Sonatine would be... dunno... >:D
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 01:01:33 AM
I played no.1 as a grade 10 exam piece. Both no.2 and no.8 are ARCT(Canada). Ravel Sonatine would be... dunno... >:D

What does that mean?
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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 01:47:00 PM
What does that mean?


I would def. say that the Schumann is a bit harder than the sonatine (that is to play it correctly)

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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 10:05:19 AM
What does that mean?
It means I don't know :D Ravel Sonatine could be a Spanish Fruit Dessert for all I know.
That's the price you pay for being moderate in everything.  See, if I were you, my name would be Ilovepie.  But that's just me.

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Re: Schumann novelette op.21
Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 05:03:24 PM
I was thinking about that because of their name "Novelette" which I thought might have some relationship with novels. :P Maybe it means something else.


The reference is to Clara Novello.  That Schumann was such a flirt.  This work is a series of longish tales of adventure…intimately connected and written with passionate joy -- cheerful and flighty…but somewhere I also hit rock bottom.

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https://www.bh2000.net/score/pianschm/sp23.pdf#search=%22novelletten%20schumann%22

Two lls by the way.  Novelletten.  Great work, very difficult musically.
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