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The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
on: October 02, 2006, 06:21:58 AM
The US government believes its citizens can be responsible with deadly weapons but not with their own money.

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #1 on: October 02, 2006, 06:25:35 AM
Since when has internet gambling become illegal?  2 minutes ago?  Because I'm playing poker on AP right now o.O

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #2 on: October 02, 2006, 06:44:19 AM
Since when has internet gambling become illegal?  2 minutes ago?  Because I'm playing poker on AP right now o.O

Are you in the USA?

This is a Story from Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=axF4c7AOqtOc&refer=uk

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888, PartyGaming to Suspend U.S. Business After Law Passes

By Neil Craven

Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- 888 Holdings Plc and PartyGaming Plc, two online-gaming companies that trade in London, said they'll suspend business with U.S. customers after Congress passed laws curbing payments for Internet gambling.

Congress passed the legislation Sept. 30, making it unlawful for credit-card companies to collect payments for transactions with online-gaming sites. Both companies said today they'd suspend business with U.S. residents when the law takes effect.

Gibraltar-based 888 said in a Regulatory News Service statement that the legislation will have a ``material adverse impact'' on its performance this year and thereafter. PartyGaming said its profit would be ``significantly short of consensus forecasts'' for 2006 and 2007 after a U.S. suspension.

888 said about half of its revenue is made in the U.S.

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #3 on: October 02, 2006, 07:20:00 AM
Yes I'm in the US.

"making it unlawful for credit-card companies to collect payments"


Thread over.

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #4 on: October 02, 2006, 07:29:31 AM
"Both companies said today they'd suspend business with U.S. residents when the law takes effect"

Thread over....is it?

Have you contacted your Gambling site to find out exactly how the law will affect you? You may find that there are NO Internet gambling sites based in the US because it is illegal. All of them are off shore and therfore out of US jurisdiction. This is why they are curbing them through other means. My bet is, if you are in the US it wont be long before you wont be able to gamble online anymore.

https://uk.biz.yahoo.com/14092006/214/arrested-sportingbet-chairman-resigns.html

In the US: The charge against Dicks relate to gambling by computer, a crime that is punishable by up to a year in prison.



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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #5 on: October 02, 2006, 07:44:23 AM
"Both companies said today they'd suspend business with U.S. residents when the law takes effect"

Thread over....is it?

Have you contacted your Gambling site to find out exactly how the law will affect you? You may find that there are NO Internet gambling sites based in the US because it is illegal. All of them are off shore and therfore out of US jurisdiction. This is why they are curbing them through other means. My bet is, if you are in the US it wont be long before you wont be able to gamble online anymore.

https://uk.biz.yahoo.com/14092006/214/arrested-sportingbet-chairman-resigns.html

In the US: The charge against Dicks relate to gambling by computer, a crime that is punishable by up to a year in prison.


More for you to digest.

https://www.osga.com/artman/publish/Regulation.shtml

https://www.osga.com/artman/publish/article_4770.shtml

"Under the new law, gamblers will no longer be allowed to pay for online wagers with credit cards, checks or other bank instruments."

If you want the thread to be "over", come back with some facts to support it.

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #6 on: October 02, 2006, 08:00:13 AM
The solution is simple.  Just take away the right to bear arms and the problem vanishes. ;)

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #7 on: October 02, 2006, 08:10:34 AM
The solution is simple.  Just take away the right to bear arms and the problem vanishes. ;)

That is one  :D

I thought another one could be that US citizens wanting to gamble online could open an offshore bank account so they could make and receive payments. However they were discussing this very issue on Bloomberg and the analysts think that the US will close every possible loophole!  ::)

The shares for PARTYGAMING (PRTY.L) have dropped over 55% at the time of writing this!  :o

https://uk.biz.yahoo.com/02102006/140/online-gambling-faces-meltdown.html

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #8 on: October 02, 2006, 08:45:25 AM
If you want the thread to be "over", come back with some facts to support it.


This is so assinine and stupid I honestly don't even know where/how to begin to respond to it.  The level of stupidity in this statement actually gave me chills.  This is like, on a whole other dimension of idiocy that man-kind was never meant to encounter; I will probably never blink again.

Now normally, I would not waste my time with what will surely become an even bigger waste of my time, but the combination of hostility, stupidity and clear misunderstanding of the communication process have created a perfectly and complexly layered effect of efficated feces that I simply must break it down, in philosophical persute to understand how so few letters can convey such immaturity and lack of IQ.  I will attempt to respond to this in a formulaic fashion, so as to compose my own thoughts more efficiently and allow me to thoroughly respond to all of the sublties and nuances of mild to moderate retardation in this comment.  I will first break it down into pieces, and then re-examine it as the sophomoric, painfully idiotic entity that it is, once I more intimately understand each part of it.



A- Do not presume I want this thread to be over.  My activity in it should have been an obvious indicator that I found it interesting.  Even monkeys and dogs are capable of detecting the correlations between basic human reactions and emotion, ergo with only the first half of your statement, you have exhibited that you are less socially intelligent than a monkey or a dog.

B- The use of quotations on the word "over" insinuate any combination of the following: inability to use punctuation, inability to correctly convey sarcasm and/or inability to understand the context of what I said.  While it's a long-shot that the third is true, I'm hesitant to omit it as a possibility and put it past you thusly.

C- The proposal to "come back with some facts" is the most mind-boggling of all, and I find myself having difficulty articulating the sheer and unbridled illogic with appropriately strong and vulgar vocabulary.  The fact that you want me to "support" something, when I have made no claims or postulates to anything whatsoever intrigues me, because you obviously not only think your statement makes sense, but that I have said something that vindicates you in your hostility.  I then re-read the thread in its entirety, and decided that you must refer to my allusion to the fact that "only credit-card" transactions would be illegal.  Interestingly, I was quoting you, therefore you take both offense AND argument to what you say, which I find rather solipsist.

C2- Thus, assuming what you posted was a "fact", I have therefore met your criteria for ending the thread, yet it is not over, so obviously more delving into your fragile and insecure psyche is required.  I assume that you take offense to me saying something (quoting you) that may have given the impression that this thread is moot IE that you are wrong, when in actuality you were unable to produce enough information (or facts) to give your readers the ability to pass proper judgement, and then you penalize them.

C3- I also find it somewhat difficult to grasp that you would start a thread, and then insist that other people post the information pertaining to the situation in which you refer to.

D- "facts to support it."  Is the key to unlocking this moronicness (or moronicacy, whichever you prefer; you're obviously the words expert), because of the preposition "it" you suggest with apparently 100% assuredness that I have something to support, and that not only does it require facts, and not only is it contradictory to what you have said, I should be required to do so, when the only think I have said is a DIRECT quote from material you posted.


In overview, please do not take this as an attack on your character, but take it as only an inner monologue trying to comprehend how you could be so insanely stupid, yet still have your brain capable of telling your lungs to breath and your heart to beat.

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #9 on: October 02, 2006, 08:54:07 AM

This is so assinine and stupid I honestly don't even know where/how to begin to respond to it.  The level of stupidity in this statement actually gave me chills.  This is like, on a whole other dimension of idiocy that man-kind was never meant to encounter; I will probably never blink again.

Now normally, I would not waste my time with what will surely become an even bigger waste of my time, but the combination of hostility, stupidity and clear misunderstanding of the communication process have created a perfectly and complexly layered effect of efficated feces that I simply must break it down, in philosophical persute to understand how so few letters can convey such immaturity and lack of IQ.  I will attempt to respond to this in a formulaic fashion, so as to compose my own thoughts more efficiently and allow me to thoroughly respond to all of the sublties and nuances of mild to moderate retardation in this comment.  I will first break it down into pieces, and then re-examine it as the sophomoric, painfully idiotic entity that it is, once I more intimately understand each part of it.



A- Do not presume I want this thread to be over.  My activity in it should have been an obvious indicator that I found it interesting.  Even monkeys and dogs are capable of detecting the correlations between basic human reactions and emotion, ergo with only the first half of your statement, you have exhibited that you are less socially intelligent than a monkey or a dog.

B- The use of quotations on the word "over" insinuate any combination of the following: inability to use punctuation, inability to correctly convey sarcasm and/or inability to understand the context of what I said.  While it's a long-shot that the third is true, I'm hesitant to omit it as a possibility and put it past you thusly.

C- The proposal to "come back with some facts" is the most mind-boggling of all, and I find myself having difficulty articulating the sheer and unbridled illogic with appropriately strong and vulgar vocabulary.  The fact that you want me to "support" something, when I have made no claims or postulates to anything whatsoever intrigues me, because you obviously not only think your statement makes sense, but that I have said something that vindicates you in your hostility.  I then re-read the thread in its entirety, and decided that you must refer to my allusion to the fact that "only credit-card" transactions would be illegal.  Interestingly, I was quoting you, therefore you take both offense AND argument to what you say, which I find rather solipsist.

C2- Thus, assuming what you posted was a "fact", I have therefore met your criteria for ending the thread, yet it is not over, so obviously more delving into your fragile and insecure psyche is required.  I assume that you take offense to me saying something (quoting you) that may have given the impression that this thread is moot IE that you are wrong, when in actuality you were unable to produce enough information (or facts) to give your readers the ability to pass proper judgement, and then you penalize them.

C3- I also find it somewhat difficult to grasp that you would start a thread, and then insist that other people post the information pertaining to the situation in which you refer to.

D- "facts to support it."  Is the key to unlocking this moronicness (or moronicacy, whichever you prefer; you're obviously the words expert), because of the preposition "it" you suggest with apparently 100% assuredness that I have something to support, and that not only does it require facts, and not only is it contradictory to what you have said, I should be required to do so, when the only think I have said is a DIRECT quote from material you posted.


In overview, please do not take this as an attack on your character, but take it as only an inner monologue trying to comprehend how you could be so insanely stupid, yet still have your brain capable of telling your lungs to breath and your heart to beat.

"This is so assinine and stupid I honestly don't even know where/how to begin to respond to it."

"the only think I have said is a DIRECT quote from material you posted" ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #10 on: October 02, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
"This is so assinine and stupid I honestly don't even know where/how to begin to respond to it."

"the only think I have said is a DIRECT quote from material you posted" ;D  ;D  ;D


Ah!  The overwhelming cleverness!  I am inter-slain! :'(


Oh wait.


Nevermind.


This just reiterates everything I said.  Woo hoo. :)

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Re: The right to bear arms but not gamble online!
Reply #11 on: October 02, 2006, 09:25:47 AM

Ah!  The overwhelming cleverness!  I am inter-slain! :'(


Oh wait.


Nevermind.


This just reiterates everything I said.  Woo hoo. :)


Your effort to be clever has created an interesting paradox ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

You are very entertaining  ;D ;D

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