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Offline presto agitato

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Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
on: October 20, 2006, 07:50:41 PM
Anybody?
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Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 08:00:56 PM
Hinty would have a fit if he saw this ;D

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 08:08:25 PM
I'm not sure who "Hinty" is, but I personally am having nothing at all like a fit here. If someone wants to obtain Hamelin's Triple Étude after Chopin, they have only to send me an email at
sorabji-archive@lineone.net
and then, if they'd like, they could also (if they so wish) obtain my own Étude en forme de Chopin which is a piece reconstructed from my much earlier (1977) Les Trois Chopins as a direct consequence of seeing Marc-André's piece and hearing it played by its transcriber (my Étude en forme de Chopin is available both in ms. form and in an excellent typeset edition by Simon Abrahams).

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 08:39:36 PM
then, if they'd like, they could also (if they so wish) obtain my own Étude en forme de Chopin

I will be getting that for my mum for Christmas.

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 07:06:09 PM
Why would anyone want to play that Hamelin mishmash when there's Godowsky?   :-X

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 07:09:51 PM
godowsky didnt write a triple etude, or it was lost. here, hamelin assumed godowsky's role and wrote it as he thought godowsky woulda have. and i think he did a good job with this.
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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 07:24:14 PM
The Etude en form de Chopin Op26 is superior.

Have forgotten the name of the composer.

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #7 on: October 22, 2006, 07:25:25 PM
Why would anyone want to play that Hamelin mishmash when there's Godowsky?   :-X

First, it's an amazing etude, and second, it's not like he's gonna learn Godowsky or Hamelin anytime soon.

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #8 on: October 22, 2006, 11:49:36 PM
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Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 12:34:17 AM
Greetings.

Why do you feel the need to name pieces in English?

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 01:11:47 AM
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Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #11 on: October 24, 2006, 04:25:37 AM
Perhaps that is because Chopin didn't speak English, and his etudes are written in French (to the extent of my knowledge).

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Re: Chopin - Hamelin: Triple Etude
Reply #12 on: October 25, 2006, 12:08:25 PM
Can you explain Rachmaninoff's Etudes-Tableaux or the Italian instructions in music?  Often, tradition is involved in the languages of the writings.  Etudes are written in french, not studies in english.  And why is that?  I believe it is precedent/tradition/convention.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)
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