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Offline henrah

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Bach/Rachmaninov
on: October 29, 2006, 04:08:43 PM
How would one go about composing a solo piano prelude that would include the styles of Bach and Rachmaninov? I mean, how could one mix the two styles successfully?

Any and all help is appreciated,
Henrah
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Offline franz_

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #1 on: October 29, 2006, 04:16:32 PM
Not so difficult. Rachmaninoff used a lot of polyphony.
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Offline henrah

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 04:22:23 PM
So polyphony is a trait that's quite obvious to both Bach and Rachmaninov? Are there any more traits? I mean, I'd like to get quite a distinct comparison between the two styles whilst still maintaining it in one piece. And I can't simply do an ABA of purely Rach-Bach-Rach, they have to be intertwined.
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

Offline steve jones

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #3 on: October 30, 2006, 04:31:28 AM
You might want to check out the Rach Fugetta.

SJ

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #4 on: October 30, 2006, 05:41:14 AM
Rach transcribed a few of Bach's solo violin works - you could check dem out too.
Traits of both their musical language are advanced harmony, i'm not sure how you could apply that though.
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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #5 on: October 30, 2006, 10:35:29 PM
Ok thanks for the help guys.
Henrah
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 01:21:53 AM

If I had this task, I would probably try to write a piece with a high level of polyphony in the style of Bach. But Id also try to incorporate some of the heavily chromatic and extended harmony of Rach.

Or maybe you could do a Bach style progression (like on of the chorals) and give it a big Rach style piano transcription?

SJ

Offline henrah

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
Could you describe this Bach style progression please Steve?
Thanks,
Henrah
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 03:42:04 AM
Or maybe you could do a Bach style progression (like on of the chorals) and give it a big Rach style piano transcription?

That is what I think would be the best ! Take a Bach piece, take same chords, melodies, but do them in the way of rach ! Huge full notes chords in both hands, banging their way all over the keyboard(in an artistic way, of course).

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Re: Bach/Rachmaninov
Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 04:53:14 PM
Ok thanks thierry!
Henrah
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /
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