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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 02:14:29 PM
that is bizarre.  it really worked the first time.  81 was my answer and the symbol was correct.  now what?  what are you proving, mr. zheer?  that satan is alive and well?  that he hears our thoughts, too?  i happen to speak out loud when i do math - so i'm wondering if that even would have to be the case in my particular instance. 

or, is it something simple and mathematical that i am over looking?  i'm at a total loss.  this is like the magician at the neighborhood block party.  i usually stand in the back, but my daughter was in the front and so some kind of filling a jar up with water - and then doing something and the water was poured here and there and - i forget - but either the water reappeared or something.  and, then also - the soda can that was drunk and then had the lid on again.  that one stumped me!

although i do not understand this - i say that all of pharoah's magicians snakes were eaten by moses one snake.  when i read that - i thought 'pwnd.'  noone would have any 'higher' power except by God's hand.  satan used to be at the right hand of God.  i think this is where he obtained the gifts that he was given - of music and of spiritual power.  he was also created in great beauty.  if we believe the bible - he will do great things at this end time.  so much so that many will be deceived by him instead of Jesus Christ.

rev. 13:13 - 'and he performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.  and he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who 'had the wound of the sword and has come to life.'  (imitating Christ himself) and there was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast might even speak (watch the movie 'curious george' for my take on that!) and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.'

computers and technology may well be a 'beast' we contend with.  keeping track of our thoughts and our minds - but only God should be doing that! 

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
say - are you aware that many of the symbols are quite REPETETIVe.  thus, increasing the chances by 30-40% that you'll get the symbol you are thinking.  the 'book' is used about six time in number 99,98, 80,70,62,and 35.  many of the other symbols are, too.  so - my question is - if this is an all powerful 'mind' - why can't it use completely different symbols for each number?  hahha broke the spell.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 03:03:29 PM
say - are you aware that many of the symbols are quite REPETETIVe.  thus, increasing the chances by 30-40% that you'll get the symbol you are thinking.  the 'book' is used about six time in number 99,98, 80,70,62,and 35.  many of the other symbols are, too.  so - my question is - if this is an all powerful 'mind' - why can't it use completely different symbols for each number?  hahha broke the spell.
Not really. Every answer you get is a multiple of 9 (99-(9+9)=81, 98-(9+8)=81), always, the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Only, every time you do it, the symbol changes.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 04:02:06 PM
Not really. Every answer you get is a multiple of 9 (99-(9+9)=81, 98-(9+8)=81), always, the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Only, every time you do it, the symbol changes.
 
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 04:32:46 PM
i'm pwnd. 

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 05:18:46 PM
The moment you don't understand something it must be satan?
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 05:30:10 PM
i knew someone would say that - although if you look at where these signs come from - they are astrological and zodiac signs which some (not all) come from 'mystery babylon' or 'mystery religions' that associate the heavenly signs with 'religion' and seeing the future.  also, some signs seem to be associated with the elements of the universe.  i don't claim to have any better signs at this point - so i'm agreed that we need some to signify whatever we're talking about.  but, it did cross my mind that many cultures have many 'mysterious' elements that they wish to promote (as with fortunes and this and that occurring to predict an outcome).  i wish to maintain my distance from 'mind bending' when it comes to it's useage in things that are not direct prayer to God for miracles.

the reason i say this is that higher power can be used for evil, too.  who is to keep us from evil?  Jesus Christ.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 05:35:39 PM
Greetings.

And what is "evil" Pianistimo?

"Nothing is good nor bad, but thinking makes it so." -Shakespeare

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 05:42:56 PM
shakespeare is right.  evil can be in our minds.  then when it comes to action it brings sin and death.  so cain - by thinking about killing his bro - caused a shift in not only his mind but his face so much that God could see what He was thinking.  'why are you angry? and why has your countenance fallen? and if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.'

not every sin causes death immediately - but it leads to death.  that is what the bible says.  if we are all born under sin (being of adam and eve) there's really no way to humanly escape it.  except that Christ came into the world that all might have life - and have it abundantly.  so, we have a physical creation doomed to death and a spiritual creation that causes things to be 'reborn' and eternal as God is.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
Pianistimo.

You just can't help yourself can you. Almost every single thread something religious appears in your pathetic ramblings.

For pities sake, give us all a break.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 05:55:48 PM
You still haven't answered my question though. For all we know, we account "sin" as those actions that we were taught to be as forbidding and taboo. Given that, it is safe to assume that should we have been taught that "helping others is bad," that that would be also registered as "sin."

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #12 on: November 20, 2006, 06:11:11 PM
"Susanistimo" is an anagram of "O, as I must sin".

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #13 on: November 20, 2006, 06:24:45 PM
evil is the opposite of good.  just as darkness is the opposite of light.  the two cannot combine, according to Jesus.  'either you will love the one and hate the other...' etc.  so, as i read it - we are born under the power of sin and have to learn about good rather than evil.  evil is a naturally occurring thing in our world of 'sin and death.'  but moving into light means more effort than what happens naturally with 'feelings,' 'moods,'  'impressions' - and moves toward concrete actions.  what we do.  is it according to the Word of God?  then we know that it is not evil - if it is according to God's word.

psalm 22:16 which the chapter is a tribute prophecy to Jesus Christ before He came and mentions him being 'poured out like water' and all his bones being 'out of joint,' and his heart 'like wax.'  anyways, when you get to verse 16 it says 'a band of evildoers has encompassed me; they pierce my hands and my feet, i can count all my bones.  they look, they stare at me; they divide my garments among them and for my clothing they cast lots.'

now, how could david (born hundreds of years before Christ) have prophecied this without the help of the Holy Spirit?  he did not know that Christ would die this way - unless it was revealed to him by the Spirit of God.  How did God know Himself - how He would die.  can anyone explain this passage of the bible - as it is known to have existed way before Christ.  this fact is given by the books of the ot that were commonly read in the temple which included the psalms.  Jesus himself quotes many passages of the psalms.

and, -lastly - the 'evildoers' are mentioned as killers of Jesus Christ.  their purpose was to destroy God.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 07:41:53 PM
You are actually ruining my enjoyment of this forum. Whilst i do try to ignore your posts, it is very difficult because they are everywhere.

This thread started off as a simple harmless mind trick and so far you have infested it with paragraphs of utter bilge.

It is getting to the stage where i really think that you are ill and need the services of a shrink.

I would suggest you spend less time in here and more with your family.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 08:09:23 PM
Maybe Nils should consider a ban if she doesn't stop soon.
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #16 on: November 20, 2006, 08:14:15 PM
Weird math relationships are always fun.

I like this one.  Multiply any number by 9.  The sum of the digits will be a multiple of 9. :)

5*9=45
4+5=9

12*9=108
1+0+8=9

4785*9=43065
4+3+0+6+5=18

123456789*9=1111111101
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+0+1=9

987654321*9=8888888889
8*9+9=90

Also works for 3
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #17 on: November 20, 2006, 08:23:26 PM
For this puzzle

Let x be your first digit and y your second, so your number is x*10+y

You subtract their sum or x+y

Your final number will always be x*10+y-(x+y)

Simplifies to 9x

The symbols for every multiple of 9 are the same.
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #18 on: November 21, 2006, 05:35:25 PM
evil is the opposite of good.  just as darkness is the opposite of light.  the two cannot combine, according to Jesus.  'either you will love the one and hate the other...' etc.  so, as i read it - we are born under the power of sin and have to learn about good rather than evil.  evil is a naturally occurring thing in our world of 'sin and death.'  but moving into light means more effort than what happens naturally with 'feelings,' 'moods,'  'impressions' - and moves toward concrete actions.  what we do.  is it according to the Word of God?  then we know that it is not evil - if it is according to God's word.



Claiming that "evil' is the opposite of "good" and comparing the two concepts to such natural things such as light and dark is a bit confusing for me. How is "light" better or worse than "darkness"? The nocturnal creatures would be rather upset now wouldn't they. ;) Does that mean they are the opposite of good, hence "evil"?

Proposing that good is indeed is opposite to evil is all the more confusing, because there are many magnitudes of evil, and "evil" is just in the mind, with the "evil-doer" not thinking in terms of evil, but in terms of good, with "good" being an emotion associated with pleasure.
psalm 22:16 which the chapter is a tribute prophecy to Jesus Christ before He came and mentions him being 'poured out like water' and all his bones being 'out of joint,' and his heart 'like wax.' anyways, when you get to verse 16 it says 'a band of evildoers has encompassed me; they pierce my hands and my feet, i can count all my bones. they look, they stare at me; they divide my garments among them and for my clothing they cast lots.'

now, how could david (born hundreds of years before Christ) have prophecied this without the help of the Holy Spirit? he did not know that Christ would die this way - unless it was revealed to him by the Spirit of God. How did God know Himself - how He would die. can anyone explain this passage of the bible - as it is known to have existed way before Christ. this fact is given by the books of the ot that were commonly read in the temple which included the psalms. Jesus himself quotes many passages of the psalms.

and, -lastly - the 'evildoers' are mentioned as killers of Jesus Christ. their purpose was to destroy God.

Of course Jesus Christ would appoint all of those against Him as "evil." Who wouldn't? All of the "great" dictators claimed those rebellious to their protocol as "evil," and yet a larger portion of the society now would deem Hitler as being one of the most "evil" of all men. Come to look at it, Hitler was once very influential and certainly got the favor of the public. He was venerated as a "savior of Germany," if you will. Of course at that time people though that he was good. He offered a mean of success, of advancement, of expansion, and of power. The followers didn't know of his intent on wiping out the other countries.

Do you see what I am getting at? I am sorry for having to have to resort to this word, given the definite annoyance of the majority of members here, but Christianity propagates itself as the only valid religion, with every one else being "damned," whatever that should mean. The Nazi race also tried to exterminate the other races, but fortunately, and not so fortunately for at that time Nazis, they didn't prevail. Given all that, how is it that you can tell between a safe religion, and a perfidious one?

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 05:51:33 PM
Evil and good are basically the same. If you say they are opposites its like saying 'male' and 'female' are opposites. But, those are very much the same as well. They are the two properties gender can have, generally, so the only difference between them is that they aren't exactly the same. They deal with the same subject. So how can they be opposites.

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #20 on: November 21, 2006, 05:59:46 PM
Maybe Nils should consider a ban if she doesn't stop soon.

A ban prometheus ???  ;D ;D ;D

Who would you argue with if that happened?  ::)

We all live in glass houses don't we...?

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #21 on: November 21, 2006, 06:05:14 PM
A ban prometheus ???  ;D ;D ;D

Who would you argue with if that happened?  ::)

We all live in glass houses don't we...?

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #22 on: November 21, 2006, 06:13:07 PM
I don't really argue with her, I try to correct her.

But it was kind of meant as a joke. But if she really 'destroys' every topic with her rants that no one reads then maybe she will require correction by a moderator.
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #23 on: November 21, 2006, 06:30:43 PM
I don't really argue with her, I try to correct her.

But it was kind of meant as a joke. But if she really 'destroys' every topic with her rants that no one reads then maybe she will require correction by a moderator.

I see the difference now. She is preaching whereas you are "correcting"  ;D

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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #24 on: November 21, 2006, 06:31:58 PM
I hope that wasn't meant sarcastic.
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Re: Mind reader. (just when you thought you were safe)
Reply #25 on: November 21, 2006, 08:49:20 PM
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