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This is great, but Argerich's are just as good, and cleaner....
it's fast but a little mess and emotionless
The emotion is known as fury, look it up.
his R.H. was way faster than L.H. Half of the audience was laughing.
Clearly he has learnt from his mistakes, and his LH now matched his RH.
Musical reservations are as irrelevant here as questioning the quality of dialogue in the latest seymour butts movie.The point in foucs, is raw octave speed, and these 2 videos are, to mine and a number of others' knowledge, records.You say others can play it 'at least as fast'?Prove it.
gradually speeding up to above the point of human abilities
The point is that every human has different abilities, and I seriously doubt this 'Bakk' can match Grynyuk in raw speed.
Well, the octaves are very fast. I am impressed with the sheer speed and power. But I must way it is very mechanical playing and very very very boring. I just wonder what he is trying to express. Anyway, regarding the Rubinstein competition, the winner is Alexander GAVRYLYUK, a very good pianist. Don't mix him up with Alexei Grynyuk.
Until I watched the video, that's who I thought you folks were talking about, and I was quite confused, as Gavrylyuk plays very impressively on the VAI DVD that I have! He too can play fast, but he's far more musical than this Grynyuk clown.
Anyway, regarding the Rubinstein competition, the winner is Alexander GAVRYLYUK, a very good pianist. Don't mix him up with Alexei Grynyuk.
.The emotion is known as fury, look it up.
Yes, Grynyuk played the competition when Korsantia won (some 8-10 years ago). Naturally, he did not pass even into the second round.
This isn't furious. It's just fast and rather sloppy. Yes his speed is cool but I don't think he has much to offer besides that.
There are way too many 'musical' pianists out there, we need more pianists with more tehcnical excellence and the abandom to unleash this kind of meteoric warpfactor 8 speed.
It's the fastest ever, and not particularly sloppy.Does he need anything more to offer?There are way too many 'musical' pianists out there, we need more pianists with more tehcnical excellence and the abandom to unleash this kind of meteoric warpfactor 8 speed.
Is this the guy who was in the Van Cliburn documentary who's always a nervous wreck, burnt his hand with boiling water one year and had to opt out, now he brings his own piano bench around because he likes to sit lower? Or was that Alexander Gavrylyuk? Because if it's Grynyuk he played HR6 at that competiton and it was great, but this performance here actually blows that one away.
Sorry dude; after the intial impression of the speed wore off, there wasn't anything there for me. Ah prefer this vid, as did my music appreciation class ( post high school kids), their mouths dropped and stayed that way. You could have heard a pin drop during this vid, usually there's rustling or whispered comments. Why, his accuracy? His speed? They are both extremely impressive, but that's not why. This man is comitted to the music and is saying something. In other words, this performance is "musical". Compared to this performance, Mr. Grinyuk's has about the same emotionalcontent level as if Myleene Klass or Atomic Kitten had performed it...At least they are much more pleasant to look at... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wnXcq8Gk7Y&mode=related&search=
You might as well ask why more people like Rubinstein's Chopin Nocturne recordings more than Hamelin's Chopin Godowsky etudes.I do personally like em both.
It's the fastest ever, and not particularly sloppy.Does he need anything more to offer?
5 people have seen faster octaves? according to the poll.Speak up and name names.
Is this guy a friend of yours? You seem so defensive toward him. OK, he's fast...I'm very happy for him.
5 people have seen faster octaves? according to the poll.
I've never seen or heard anyone at that speed in those pieces, so it's hard to compare.It's a bit sloppy, but who else could play at that speed at all?The hands are the most complex movable parts of the human body...many people are amazed by fast runners, and speed is the essence of almost every sport.I feel speed of the hands should be just as admired.A wise man once said -' Music is entertainment, Speed is art '
Fortunately, for some people "better" does not nesseccarily mean "faster".
But his playing is not inspiring.
The poll says "impressive octaves". Nothing about faster. I don't think I've heard it faster. But it didn't impress me much. He's shallow. I admire good piano technique for it's own sake but if it's not connected to a musical intelligence or is somehow expressive it's just that, good piano technique. I would rather listen to someone who has both technique and musicality. Why shouldn't I buy the complete package...
But you just don't seem to care how anybody uses the gift of speed! What if you had a friend with a superior intelligence, who was so "smart' that he could find a fault in every little thing you did. The way you dressed, the colors you chose, the way you walked, the way you played the piano, your religion, your conversation, your other friends, your family, he criticized everything. Would you say, "I think this person is amazing, and what an intellect! I have never heard anybody with a faster wit, and if anybody says they have, they are lying." No - you would say, "Shut the *** up." And a big collective voice from piano forum is wathcing this video, and seeing someone play fast at the service of nothing, and they are rising up to say, "Shut the *** up." Nobody wants to see the things they love treated in this way, and you certainly wouldn't want yourself treated in this way, so what is to admire? Actually there is more to say, "He can play so fast - what a shame he plays like this." That way you can admire the speed and feel the disappointment at the same time.Walter Ramsey
I can see the shame dripping from this post.
He is playing fast in service of the art of keyboard athleticism, noone is claiming otherwise.
This is as 'shallow' or 'enlightened' as any other person who persues technical excellence in any field.
The complete package evidently doesn't exist.
When a certain level of speed is achieved, musicality becomes irrelevant and it enters the realm of pianistic olympics.
To denounce a pianist with 'the fastest octaves ever' as 'not very impressive', is to(in my view) prove your lack of passion for the art of pianism, which is sandwiched between the reals of music and physical feat.
Againt with the sports analogy, why should you be ANY LESS impressed by his octaves than people are by the fastest track athletes in the world?
The ideal for most, is a marriage of both, but for most people 'musicality' is a distraction from technical excellence.
Only those endowed with the mystical gift of 'fury' can happily form a symbiosis of music and athleticism, as their 'musical' instincts also tend to the higher warp factors.
Cziffra Horowitz Hoffman Richter Gilels Sofronitsky Ashkenazy Kappel Viardo Sokolov Janis Berezovsky Rachmaninov Francois Argerich Lang Fiorentino Pogorelich Hamelin Zimerman Rubinstein Casadesus Attwood Katchen Pollack Perhaia Li Tiempo etc etc etc etc.
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Topic: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel 