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are these the most impressive octaves you have ever witnessed

yes, best I've ever seen
29 (36.7%)
I've seen equal to this, but no better
9 (11.4%)
I've seen better
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Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel (Read 36168 times)

Offline dnephi

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #100 on: November 21, 2007, 02:52:17 PM »
Anyone heard his Paderewski comp?  Rachmaninoff Etudes like I've never heard them before.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #101 on: November 21, 2007, 06:17:47 PM »
Yes, I like his slower playing alot too, but then - people who can play slow music well are a dime a dozen.

People who can play octaves like that are, well, you know..not.

Please don't change my statements when quoting me (for some reason, I can't get it to show up as a quoted quote)--there's a grammar error in it now!

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #102 on: November 23, 2007, 06:53:02 AM »
On first impression, just hearing the octaves of the HR6, I thought it was sloppy and emotionless and nothing special.

But then I listened to the complete version several times and concluded he is not emotionless at all.

Then I listened to argerich several times, and cziffra several times....

And I think Cziffra is cleaner, but this guy is definitely faster, and he is both faster and cleaner than Argerich.

I think argerich could do better though, maybe she was lazy when she recorded this piece. 

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #103 on: November 23, 2007, 09:52:59 AM »
speed itself is not so important imo.
i mean, do you listen to recordings with a metronome cliking beside you?
what matters most, at least for me, is the feeling, nuance, whatever,  the playing brings.
in short, how it sounds.
you care how many notes are played in a certain amount of time?let playerpiano do it.
ever heard horowitz's HR6? though his is not the fastest, nor loudest HR6 ever, it sounds far better than others.
have a listen and tell me what you hear.

btw, i heard gavryluk a few days back and felt that he performed sincerely.
ultimately, imo, one cant judge someone truly before he dies.
let's hope that gavryluk shall be a true artist.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #104 on: November 24, 2007, 04:38:33 AM »
A do-be acrobat.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #105 on: November 24, 2007, 04:45:30 AM »
Adobe Acrobat, do be a acrobat.

Legendary debut.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #106 on: November 24, 2007, 07:15:50 AM »
Legendary debut.
Sorry, a lingo-debut, rehearsal needed. :P

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #107 on: July 12, 2008, 02:41:11 AM »
I've seen better  23 (51.1%)

Names, people?
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #108 on: July 12, 2008, 08:03:50 AM »
I've seen better  23 (51.1%)

Names, people?

I did not vote, but to name a couple, Anton Mordasov (who played this piece since he was 11y.o.) and (esp.) Vladimir Bakk--nobody ever had such quality of octaves in this piece, where every single one pierces the air like a little laser.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #109 on: July 12, 2008, 10:11:28 AM »
it'd be good if he could try to music it.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #110 on: July 12, 2008, 12:33:37 PM »
I did not vote, but to name a couple, Anton Mordasov (who played this piece since he was 11y.o.) and (esp.) Vladimir Bakk--nobody ever had such quality of octaves in this piece, where every single one pierces the air like a little laser.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #111 on: July 12, 2008, 09:03:41 PM »
?

 ??? ??? ???
Sorry, I don't understand...

P.S. BTW, just out of curiosity, have you ever heard Bakk? Either the name, or his 6th Rhapsody?

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #112 on: July 13, 2008, 01:48:12 AM »
Only from you, provide a link and I'd listen.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #113 on: July 13, 2008, 04:02:37 AM »
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Da SDC?

anyway, he's nothing special.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #114 on: July 13, 2008, 01:53:28 PM »
Show me faster octaves.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #115 on: July 13, 2008, 10:56:56 PM »
Show me faster octaves.


do these count?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IRUnEuFPcFY

and if not I'm a hundred percent sure I could play faster octaves (in top form, not schumanned as I currently am). thats right 8)

having said that of course I have the utmost respect for Alexei "Super 8 Motel" Grynyuk
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #116 on: July 14, 2008, 08:36:35 AM »
Show me faster octaves.


Once again, I don't quite understand you. First, you ask "if you seen better", then you ask the names. I give you a clear answer and provide at least two names, which in my mind are much superior in quality, musicality, and just sheer virtuosity in this rhapsody. I think you would agree, any normal person at least would expect to have at least some curiousity about who are those folks. Instead, you even without having any slightest idea about whom, or what I am talking about for some unexplainable reason chose to post a picture of a stopwatch  :o  ???.
Then finally, you are asking about "faster octaves". Could you please first, deside for yourself what is the point, what you want to know, and then clearly define your criterias? If your point was who is the fastest, most uninteresting, and on top of that also the messiest, then indeed, Mr. Grynyuk is the clear winner, albeit (to be fair), I have to admit he has some quite remarkable virtuosic abilities.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #117 on: July 14, 2008, 05:12:03 PM »
he's mad. one of the fastest, but definitely argerich, hamelin and horowitz are his match. there's a reason why horowitz's octave technique is famously legendary.

this guy needs more music, and clean up a touch more, and off he goes.

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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #118 on: July 15, 2008, 01:02:33 PM »
Instead, you even without having any slightest idea about whom, or what I am talking about for some unexplainable reason chose to post a picture of a stopwatch  :o  ???.

..and a question mark, asking what speed they played at, their timings.

Of course I'm interested.

I suppose I chose 'Better' to intentionally cause debate over this.

But the debate didn't go anywhere, it depends on personal priorities, and now all I want to know is if anyone can play faster octaves than this guy, sustained,in passages like these.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #119 on: July 15, 2008, 01:16:10 PM »
this if off topic, but, opus, if u take a break from worrying all about speed and concentrate on other aspects of music-say only for two week or so-you'd be one step better a pianist than you are now. i dont just think so, but i know so. tds
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #120 on: July 15, 2008, 01:54:33 PM »
Some people just don't 'get' it.
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Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
«Reply #121 on: July 15, 2008, 07:35:38 PM »
Ok, I don't actually care about who is the fastest octave player in the world, but i saw this topic and Argerich immediately came to my mind. I don't know if she is any faster, maybe you should count notes in slow motion so that we can get the octaves per second rate.. Anyway here are 2 videos of her playing:

Tchaikovsky 3rd part octaves:


Liszt 1st concerto beginning:



piano sheet music of Piano Concerto 1

No plink i while: Table 'u1112_pianomusic2.sheet' doesn't exist