There are many pieces by Mosolov, Deshevov, Polovinkin, Ornstein and others that are in this vein. They are all Russian contemporaries of Prokofiev.
Incorrect. Ornstein is American, and none of the others are his peers.
Look at the Sonatas of Alberto Ginastera.
Err, Ornstein was born in Russia. He did indeed move too America. Chopin moved to France, but he was never French. My father has lived in Norway for 20 years, he don't consider himself norwegian. Ornstein ended up being an american citizen, but I would consider it as correct to call him Russian as American.
He did almost all of his composition in America- in fact, it is possible he did ALL of his composition after moving to America, as his earliest dated work is from 1911, and he emigrated in 1907, and also did not become any sort of figure until his emigration either; he is definitely considered an American composer, especially seeing as how he moved to America when he was 14 (young, yes?) and gave his premiere concert in America.
That reasoning would make Rachmaninov, Schoenberg, Stravinsky and Bartok American composers....and you flammed Jonathan Powell. He is a great pianist and from what I have read a very fine and unpretentious person. If I was you I would apologize and buy all his records.
Hmm. Where to begin. If you take what I said as to mean that anyone who has ever composed in America is an American composer, by that reasoning I could just as easily make the connection that the point of YOUR post is that you like Keebler cookies more than Chips Ahoy. Now you may ask, "where in the world would you get that from my post?", but I feel I would be justified in asking how in the world you misunderstood my post to such an equally flagrant extent.https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=define%3AflammedFlammed? I don't believe I have ever flammed before in my life. I have FLAMED, and possibly flambéed, but surely not flammed. I have NOT, however, flamed Jonathan Powell, or flambéed him for that matter. I would ask you to direct me to what exactly you classify as either. I only ever remember discussing his pianistic technique in comparison to that of Ian Pace's; if I said that my dog does not have the technique that Ian Pace has, I'm sure he wouldn't be offended. It would not particularly surprise me if Jonathan Powell is not offended either. Oh, and just to avoid it, because I'm sure one of the drama queens will make an issue of it, no I am not comparing Powell to a dog. And no, that does not mean I am saying "there is no comparison between Jonathan Powell and my dog because surely my dog is just infinitely superior."@ mephisto: Am I "of course" wrong? Please, give me a name of a dated, publicated (or assuredly real) piece by Ornstein that was written pre-1907, the date of his emigration. I'm looking at the site Ornstein's son has made in homage to Leo, and I don't see one. Maybe I'm just missing it?
@ mephisto: Am I "of course" wrong? Please, give me a name of a dated, publicated (or assuredly real) piece by Ornstein that was written pre-1907, the date of his emigration. I'm looking at the site Ornstein's son has made in homage to Leo, and I don't see one. Maybe I'm just missing it?
No wonder you end up talking just to yourself. I spelled flamed with two ms. You wrote a pedantic and inaccurate post that sounded very rude to me, and you wrote it in response to a helpful, and very insightful post by a great artist, whom graciously enough has not engaged in a wasteful dialogue with you. I guess we both (you and me) have sinned.Don't flam yourself, though. Flammed is indeed a word (not the one I intended, but neverthelesss a meaningful one). I amuse myself with the thought of what being sillier, to look up flammed and make a big deal out of it, or to actually not be able to find it. Admitedly, replying to you is down there, and I should be remiss to do it again.We digress, though.
I never saw any post of yours debasing Jonathan Powell's pianism."admittedly" is a word though.Ornstein was an American composer. Rachmaninoff, Schoenberg, Stravinsky and Bartok were not. Flammed is not a word. iumonito, you are a strange person. I don't see any coherence or accuracy in your posts.Can't people stay focused on one topic?Sheesh.
@ mephisto: Why don't you just tell me a piece; you would know, you've apparently read a biography. I don't see how that can be so difficult; well, I suppose it might be difficult if you were wrong, which to my knowledge (knowledge based on several sources) you are.
Topic: Prokofiev-like Repertoire Suggestions 