suggestions for next concerto

[jamie0168]

I played Mozart's 19th two years ago and did well, but it wasn't virtuosic enough for the judges. I played the Saint Saens 2 this year and didn't do anywhere near as well as I would have liked, because it was technically too challenging for me. I was wanting something that's not quite as techinically challenging this time, but still quite impressive. I was thinking maybe Beethoven's 4th, or something along those lines. Suggestions wanted.

[Kassaa]

Beethoven4 kills SS2 in terms of technical difficulty. Try Beethoven 1 or 2 .

[verywellmister]

Try Shostakovich no.2 or Mendelssohn 1.

[teresa_b]

How about Schumann?  Played a lot, but quite virtuosic.  Beethoven 1 is a good one.  Beethoven 4 is stunning, but very difficult. 

Good luck!
Teresa

[soliloquy]

Grieg A Minor or Mendelssohn 1.  Maybe Saint-Saens No. 4?  There are a few lesser-known ones that are quite nice too like the Massenet.  The Gershwin is definitely something you should look into also.

[jamie0168]

Thanks for the advice. Any other suggestions?

[cygnusdei]

Are you playing the whole concerto or just 1 movement? Off the top of my head, the 1st movement of Rachmaninov concerto no. 2 is probably on par with that of Saint-Saens Concerto no. 2 in terms of difficulty, and maybe more satisfying musically.

[qwerty quaver]

I would agree with soliloquy, Grieg A minor...

[thalbergmad]

I would agree with soliloquy, Grieg A minor...

I agree with him too - massenet

[verywellmister]

Are you playing the whole concerto or just 1 movement? Off the top of my head, the 1st movement of Rachmaninov concerto no. 2 is probably on par with that of Saint-Saens Concerto no. 2 in terms of difficulty, and maybe more satisfying musically.

Really?  I found SS2 to be easier than it seems, while Rach 2 is a warhorse.

[sistermusic]

How about Poulenc? A lovely piece and not heard enough.

[apion]

Beethoven 3
Mendelssohn 1

[sistermusic]

Brahms 1?
Big, but not as big as Brahms 2

[sharon_f]

Beethoven 3
Mendelssohn 1

I second LVB 3. Great piece.

[apion]

Brahms 1?
Big, but not as big as Brahms 2

Yeah, Brahms #1 would be great, except that it's extremely difficult.

[ilikepie]

I second LVB 3. Great piece.

Definitely Beethoven 3 =]

[jre58591]

i third the massenet concerto. also, look into the early salon-type concertos like the mendelssohns and herzs, if you want obscure.

[dnephi]

Hummel A Minor?
Bach D Minor?

[sistermusic]

Ravel?

[viking]

How about Poulenc? A lovely piece and not heard enough.

Seconded!  This piece is truly amazing, with it's mysterious first movement, and very witty 2nd movement.  Another suggestion would be the 2nd movement of the Saint-Saens 5th concerto.

[amelialw]

try Mendelssohn's Piano Concerto No.1 Opus 25, I atttached the link https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.1%2C_Op.25_%28Mendelssohn%2C_Felix%29

[phil13]

Hummel A Minor?

MASSIVELY HARD.


Mendy 1 is a standard first Romantic concerto, as are Grieg and Schumann. Mendy 2 in D minor is one I would choose over any of these three, though.

Either of the first two Beethoven concerti are good. No.3 is a bit harder, Nos. 4 and 5 should definitely be avoided for now.

Brahms? Are you guys kidding? The D minor, while not quite as difficult as the Bb major, is still a mature and fiendish work to be played by extremely advanced pianists. Hardly a concerto for someone coming out of something like Mozart.

There are a lot of good concerti besides the mainstream ones, but I don't know enough about their difficulty to tell you if they are good concerti for you to do.

Phil

[ctrastevere]

Rubinstein wrote some gorgeous concerti. The most famous is No. 4 in d minor, which Music Minus One sells with an included orchestral accompaniment CD. It isn't terribly difficult, though it certainly presents some rather difficult challenges, but in the end it's well worth it.

The other concerti listed are all good suggestions, though I'd suggest checking out a variety of concerti before making your final decision as to which one you should learn.

[tradge]

Ravel?

Haha, Ravels Concerto is the weirdest Piano Concerto I've ever heard! lol

I think Chopin 2 is a great once, but very difficult. I also rather like the Schumann Concerto

[ctrastevere]

Haha, Ravels Concerto is the weirdest Piano Concerto I've ever heard! lol

Which one? I think with both of them, their "quirkiness" so-to-speak is what gives them their charm.

You should try listening to Prokofiev's concerti.

[jacobwynn]

There has been lots of suggestions for Mendelssohn 1. Why not go for that?
It's great good fun for everyone: players and audience; and we all need a lot of great good fun nowadays.

[klavierkonzerte]

take alook at john fields concertos, abseloutly delightfull concertos
they'r a bit challenging but not very dificult.

i second hummel a minor concerto, i don't think it's very hard for i have read it and didn't find anything unmanagable in it.

or you can alwyas take alook at alkan concerto for solo piano.
just kidding

anyway good luck on your new concerto.

[phil13]

take alook at john fields concertos, abseloutly delightfull concertos
they'r a bit challenging but not very dificult.

I forgot about Field's concerti. Not often played, but some of them are quite nice.

i second hummel a minor concerto, i don't think it's very hard for i have read it and didn't find anything unmanagable in it.

I will admit to not having played through it (partially out of fear, partially out of lack of the score) but looking at a PDF of the piano part and listening to Hough's excellent performance of it, it strikes me as a VERY virtuosic concerto. There are many different and challenging techniques employed in it, including, notably, some rather ferocious and beastly-looking double-third passages.

Just my two cents. Like Brahms, it doesn't strike me as the first ideal post-Mozart concerto.

Phil

[christiaan]

Try Sauer`s piano concerto in a minor. The first movement of Rachmaninov`s fourth concerto and the first movement of Saint Saens Concerto no. 5 are options.

[clavicembalisticum]

Rubinstein wrote some gorgeous concerti. The most famous is No. 4 in d minor, which Music Minus One sells with an included orchestral accompaniment CD. It isn't terribly difficult, though it certainly presents some rather difficult challenges, but in the end it's well worth it.

Well said, I also like Rubinstein's concerti and some of his sonatas. Too bad other more popular works have been wiping them off :s

[elevateme_returns]

Seconded!  This piece is truly amazing, with it's mysterious first movement, and very witty 2nd movement.  Another suggestion would be the 2nd movement of the Saint-Saens 5th concerto.

poulenc thirded (is that a word? )

[amelialw]

here's the sheet music for Mendelssohn Piano Concerto No.1  https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.1%2C_Op.25_%28Mendelssohn%2C_Felix%29
you really should try it.

[elevateme_returns]

listen to the poulenc before deciding though!! its on gamingforums

[thalbergmad]

poulenc thirded (is that a word? )

It is now

[dnephi]

Beethoven Rondo is B-flat WoO is proposed once more.

[quirky]

The Gershwin is definately impressive!!!