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Do you plan to rule the world ?

Yes, and it will happen in my lifetime
4 (13.3%)
Yes, but I don't know when or how
5 (16.7%)
er... no
13 (43.3%)
other
5 (16.7%)
No
3 (10%)

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Offline m1469

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Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
on: January 10, 2007, 05:00:50 AM
Actually, this is slightly a serious question, as in I am not completely joking around.  I just wonder if people take these thoughts seriously about themselves on any front... pianistically, musically (in general), or any other way.  Or if people even have these kinds of thoughts at all.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 06:18:36 AM
Not since May, which was the last time I had two nice stiff Remy Napoleons with my dinner. Owing to constraints of the budget all I have had since is the occasional gift bottle of wine from salesmen, which makes me secretly wish for nothing more than to pass wind.
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 08:39:45 AM
Well..... I voted for er...no. With an emphasis on the ER..... ;D I have had sometimes the feeling that "the world is mine". Often I wish I could enlarge myself into the sky and floating around over the planet, seeing everything from a higher standpoint. But ruling the world would be quite a hard job I think. :P I see mainly the responsibility. And first I would have to rule myself. And I am not always sure If I am doing even this job decently :-\ But of course musicians are magicians. And they want to bring magic into the lives of their listeners. After all to me it is the question if I would want to wield power or not. And I don't want to. I want to be a musical magician yes. But without wielding power. I hope I'm writing clearly enough :P

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 08:42:17 AM
m1469, this poll is seriously flawed.  You have not given the option for those who already rule the world  8)

You're name and address has been noted  ;)
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 08:49:48 AM
It would be very bothersome to bully all those humands around.
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 10:08:05 AM
It is curious you would post this on my birthday. Is it my present perhaps  8)
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Happy Birthday nicco  :D

But from your signature, it seems that bunny is set to rule the world, no?
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 10:35:04 AM
Happy Birthday nicco  :D

But from your signature, it seems that bunny is set to rule the world, no?

Thank you :) When bunny has conquered the world i plan to overthrow him and claim the world as my own 8)
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 10:42:23 AM
Excellent  ;D So when you are sole shareholder and chief executive of Planet Earth Inc. you will be sorting out these few issues:

war
ignorance
poverty
disease
ignorance
intollerance
inequality
ignorance
global warming
global cooling
the ozone layer
polution
ignorance

and why my telephone is not working properly  ::)

.....I should get plenty of sleep in the meantime if I were you....you're gonna be busy  ;)
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 11:08:36 AM
If you are the ruler of the world why bother with those issues? You already have all the power you could wish for.
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 12:10:07 PM
If you are the ruler of the world why bother with those issues? You already have all the power you could wish for.
Spoken (or rather written) like a true world-leader-in-waiting!

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Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 12:28:52 PM
Indeedy. Look at our own "dear leader".....three landslide elections (who were those people  ::) ) with all the power to do whatever he wanted....

....and his "legacy" is ....
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Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 12:43:06 PM
Indeedy. Look at our own "dear leader
Must we?

.....three landslide elections (who were those people  ::) )
People on a landslide, presumably...

with all the power to do whatever he wanted....
Assuming he ever knew what that was...

....and his "legacy" is ....
Ten years of...

Don't ask me; I'm sorry, I haven't a clue (if you'll pardon my use of that phrase).

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Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 02:02:23 PM

Don't ask me; I'm sorry, I haven't a clue

No?  Here, let me help you:

Liberating Afganistan
Liberating Iraq
Bringing peace to Northern Ireland
Saving the NHS (saving them the bother of treating sick people by closing down hospitals)
Being the only serving Prime Minister of the Crown to be interviewed by the police in a criminal investigation.
Creating a thriving private school industry, top-up fees for higher education students, and bullying nasty "elitist" universities (known as "education, education, education")
Abolishing political sleaze to have a whiter than white government.
Devolution
ASBOs
Brilliantly handling the economy (via his "brilliant" chancellor)
Removing (possibly forever) the link between house prices, and anybody's ability to pay for them (particularly the young)
A nation where personal indebtedness is at an all time high.
All day drinking
Mega casinos
The millenium dome
Peter Mandelson
David Blunkett
John Prescott

....to be continued.... ;)




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Reply #14 on: January 10, 2007, 02:35:57 PM
No?  Here, let me help you:

Liberating Afganistan
Liberating Iraq
Bringing peace to Northern Ireland
Saving the NHS (saving them the bother of treating sick people by closing down hospitals)
Being the only serving Prime Minister of the Crown to be interviewed by the police in a criminal investigation.
Creating a thriving private school industry, top-up fees for higher education students, and bullying nasty "elitist" universities (known as "education, education, education")
Abolishing political sleaze to have a whiter than white government.
Devolution
ASBOs
Brilliantly handling the economy (via his "brilliant" chancellor)
Removing (possibly forever) the link between house prices, and anybody's ability to pay for them (particularly the young)
A nation where personal indebtedness is at an all time high.
All day drinking
Mega casinos
The millenium dome
Peter Mandelson
David Blunkett
John Prescott

....to be continued.... ;)
Well, exactly - and there's plenty more where that all came from, sadly - and you didn't even mention Gordon Brown! I'm slightly concerned, however, at the prospect that thee last three named people might be seen as representing any kind of "legacy" (and still more so if the Brown is to take over).

One other thing that you might have mentioned is the allegation that some 50% of the English population over the age of 50 has either moved abroad or is considering so doing; that alone must be quite an indictment (and this was published in a Daily Telegraph editorial). I have no doubt that, one of these days, I will be obliged to join them, since there seems no prospect of any material improvement here in the foreseeable future. A five-term régime for Brown is already being considered a possibility and, as long as the main political parties display very little difference between them and as long as no credible leader emerges in any of those that are not currently in office, this appalling prospect looks far from unlikely - the only bright note might be that such a government is probably going to have to put up with rather low majorities, thereby weakening its power.

As to the thread topic itself, for the record, I do not want to rule even my own manuscript paper...

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Reply #15 on: January 10, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
Ah, but Gordon ("I came second in a charm competition to a used paper bag") Brown did get a mention ("brilliant chancellor").  I mean, who could have been so utterly clever as to dream up the wheeze of wrecking the UK pensions industry, in one budget?  Did you know that he has a glass eye?  Myopic, I guess  :P

50% of old people want to leave?  Good on 'em.  Make more room for the Bulgarians et al.  Just think - Bulgarians leave their hovels in a race to improve their lot abroad (and who can blame them) while daft Brits move into buy them up (sooooo rustic, sooo cheap) and everyone's happy right?

Right  ;)
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Reply #16 on: January 10, 2007, 03:18:51 PM
 ;D :'( ::) :-X

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Reply #17 on: January 10, 2007, 03:21:09 PM
these are good responses - some lighthearted - but they show concern that sometimes leaders simply cannot (of their own judgement) even rule their countries in the most effective ways.  there are many roadblocks and also cloudy judgement sometimes.  in a democracy - for instance - many things are slowed down by bureaucracy (sp?) .  so -- in effect - the money, whatever - gets tied up and sometimes misused. 

but, (yes. the bible) according to Jesus Christ - when He walked this earth - he gave his disciples power over the NEXT world.  the world to come.  they asked him, who of us will sit at Your right hand?  he wouldn't tell them.  but, he did say - whoever wants to be your ruler (leader) should be your servant.  that is a very different concept of leadership/rulership.

also, there are verses in the bible that say 'the meek shall inherit the earth.'  we don't very many 'meek' leaders right now.  they'd be smushed in the rush to the top.  but, if all goes according to plan - we'll have leaders in the millenium that are as King David.  he actually took into account those that were sufferring as a result of disobedience to God's laws.  ie - the enemies around israel that were causing great harm and sufferring as were the philistines. 

schumann made a sort of joke about these philistines.  and yet - it was, imo, a true historical fact.  the philistines did, in fact, exist.  and - they caused great trouble for the israelites at one point.  now, if we are (as christians) spiritual israel - then our first jobs when Christ returns will be to help eradicate WAR.

we will be turning swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks (there are obviously many more weapons now than they had in bible times - but you get the idea).  there will be no more tears and no more crying.

also, there will be peace among the animals - even.  God will make the lion lie down with the lamb.  HOW?  I don't know.  God is God.  He probably made eden that way.  peaceful.  i don't think people started actually eating meat until they were turned out of the garden.  things changed when sin entered the world.  life was harder. 

but, if God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only Begotten Son - that whoso believes believeth in Him - should not PERISH but have everlasting life!  that means that these people that HAVE everlasting  life will be living again.  they will be RULING with Christ.  does it mean they want to wield evil power?  no.  Christ said they will be servants of the people and not 'lord it over them.  the world will be a better place because rules will be in place to keep things in order instead of chaos.  everyone will know the 'game' and it will be easier to keep things according to the 'spirit' of the matter  because we will finally know what true LOVE is.

so...the question is - when is Jesus Christ returning.  in our lifetime?  could be!  very soon.  also, i think that it is very possible we will know the year.  he says we won't know the day or the hour - but in prophecy - when things start unfolding  - the tribulation is a set period of time.  3 1/2 years.  hell on earth before heaven (the kingdom).

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #18 on: January 10, 2007, 03:32:29 PM
Have you been eating cheese before bedtime again, Susan?  ;D


then our first jobs when Christ returns will be to help eradicate WAR.

As Christ will be ruling the world, and He is the Prince of Peace, surley then we won't need to help in this task?

we will be turning swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks (there are obviously many more weapons now than they had in bible times - but you get the idea). 

Mmm, what can you turn cruise missiles and hydrogen bombs into I wonder? 


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Reply #19 on: January 10, 2007, 03:34:34 PM
if God made the elements for peaceful purposes once - what is to stop Him from turning them back to whatever they were.  it's nothing.  the elements are at his disposal.

God is so powerful that if people knew how much power He truly has they would fall down and worship him instead of technology.  do you realize the entire universe is at His disposal.  after his children rule the earth for a 1000 years (millenium) do you think they will stay there?  no.  they'll go out into the universe.  to do what?  i don't know.  maybe make some of their own worlds?  could be!

remember - we are made in the image of God (male and female) and it does not 'appear what we shall be - but we know that we shall be LIKE Him.'  that's a verse in the bible! 

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Reply #20 on: January 10, 2007, 03:38:17 PM
he's got da whole world, in His hands,
he's got da whole wide world

....damn....Thal's run off with me tambourine  ???

where's my Tambourine Man?  8)
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Reply #21 on: January 10, 2007, 03:42:25 PM
that's it, exactly.  he has us in the palm of His hands.  there is another verse that talks about mankind as the 'apple of his eye.'  we are above the 'creatures' and made 'like' Him.  God is a ruler.  why will He not make us rulers like him? 

there are places in matthew where Christ talked about good stewards having 'cities' as a reward.  one city,  five cities...  why did He say this?  will we be mayors, etc.

i think so!  will we know what we are doing?  probably not.  but, at least we have some guidelines to follow.  the ten commandments.  they're pretty easy.

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Reply #22 on: January 10, 2007, 03:50:34 PM
Good gracious. What will m1469 say when she comes back? See m1469, perhaps all this is an essence of what you would have to deal with if you would really rule the world.  :o :P

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Reply #23 on: January 10, 2007, 03:52:21 PM
AGNOSTIC  and ATHEIST PARENTAL ADVISORY!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #24 on: January 10, 2007, 04:18:19 PM
what is there to advise against.  God is God.  He does what He likes even if people complain.  it's like sending children to school sometimes.  haven't we had 6,000 years of enough of our ways?  i mean - it is just like the 'days of noah' today.  do you like what you see around you?  murder.  suicides.  rape.  child abuse. 

that is what is hurting children!  when Jesus came the first time he said 'suffer the little children TO COME TO ME.'  He was able to actually help show them what true love is.  the kindness that one should have towards the littlest members of society. 

btw, where i got the 3 1/2 years of tribulation was from revelations where it mentions 1260 days.  if you count it down - it equals about 3 1/2 years.  also, somewhere it mentions 'blessed are those who make it to 1290 days.'  what does that mean?  does the last month mean that there will only be a very few people left on earth.  i think so!

also, there is a scripture that says that God might cut short that time - so that 'flesh might be saved.'  if there is nuclear war - who can save us but God?

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Reply #25 on: January 10, 2007, 04:36:16 PM
do you like what you see around you?  murder.  suicides.  rape.  child abuse. 

My, you live in a rough neighbourhood, Susan.  Have you considered moving?

when Jesus came the first time he said 'suffer the little children TO COME TO ME.' 

These days of course, he'd be arrested  :o
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Reply #26 on: January 10, 2007, 04:37:41 PM
I voted for other. I secretly wish to change the world completely.
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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #27 on: January 10, 2007, 04:47:41 PM
No?  Here, let me help you:

Liberating Afganistan
Liberating Iraq
Bringing peace to Northern Ireland
Saving the NHS (saving them the bother of treating sick people by closing down hospitals)
Being the only serving Prime Minister of the Crown to be interviewed by the police in a criminal investigation.
Creating a thriving private school industry, top-up fees for higher education students, and bullying nasty "elitist" universities (known as "education, education, education")
Abolishing political sleaze to have a whiter than white government.
Devolution
ASBOs
Brilliantly handling the economy (via his "brilliant" chancellor)
Removing (possibly forever) the link between house prices, and anybody's ability to pay for them (particularly the young)
A nation where personal indebtedness is at an all time high.
All day drinking
Mega casinos
The millenium dome
Peter Mandelson
David Blunkett
John Prescott

....to be continued.... ;)


Makes you yearn for the days of crooks like Jeffrey Archer and Neil Hamilton doesn't it?
Funny how a "Jeffrey" is only £2000, but a "Mandelson" is £373000.

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Reply #28 on: January 10, 2007, 06:02:11 PM
Ah, but Gordon ("I came second in a charm competition to a used paper bag") Brown did get a mention ("brilliant chancellor").
Yes, sorry, I missed that;  I just meant that you didn't mention the intended future president of Greater Europe by name...

I mean, who could have been so utterly clever as to dream up the wheeze of wrecking the UK pensions industry, in one budget?
Oh, I'm sure they'd have found someone else to do this, although I agree that they did slecet the best candidate for that job. That said, however, I do think that the pensions industry across the world is a terminally ill patient; I know that Brown's Advance Corporation Tax arrangements in the Budget that you mention did irreparable damage to the UK pensions industry, but it suffers other ills besides. The state won't admit that it can't provide pensions (although it soon will admit it) because it doesn't have any money; the UK government does not invest the quaintly termed UK "National Insurance Contributions" - which insure no-one against anything and are not "contributions to anything" but tax by a longer name - for the benefit of the payers - they simply pay them straight out again in other state benefits, so it's no wonder that these "contributions" have no possible opportunity for investment growth. People living longer is affecting the ability of states, employers and insurance companies to maintain pension payments and many businesses are now winding their pension schemes down. Add to these factors the vagaries of the stock market (which affect pension investments just as they affect any other kind of investments) and it is clear that the entire global pensions industry is in increasingly dire straits.

50% of old people want to leave?
No - I wrote "over 50s", not "old people"...

Good on 'em.  Make more room for the Bulgarians et al.  Just think - Bulgarians leave their hovels in a race to improve their lot abroad (and who can blame them) while daft Brits move into buy them up (sooooo rustic, sooo cheap) and everyone's happy right?
Indeed(!) - but what is perhaps more interesting is the prospect that several nations will eventually no longer have an indigenous population majority; Spain and UK are probably going to be the first to acquire that new minority population status.

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Reply #29 on: January 10, 2007, 06:05:02 PM
these are good responses - some lighthearted - but they show concern that sometimes leaders simply cannot (of their own judgement) even rule their countries in the most effective ways.  there are many roadblocks and also cloudy judgement sometimes.  in a democracy - for instance - many things are slowed down by bureaucracy (sp?) .  so -- in effect - the money, whatever - gets tied up and sometimes misused. 

but, (yes. the bible) according to Jesus Christ - when He walked this earth - he gave his disciples power over the NEXT world.  the world to come.  they asked him, who of us will sit at Your right hand?  he wouldn't tell them.  but, he did say - whoever wants to be your ruler (leader) should be your servant.  that is a very different concept of leadership/rulership.

also, there are verses in the bible that say 'the meek shall inherit the earth.'  we don't very many 'meek' leaders right now.  they'd be smushed in the rush to the top.  but, if all goes according to plan - we'll have leaders in the millenium that are as King David.  he actually took into account those that were sufferring as a result of disobedience to God's laws.  ie - the enemies around israel that were causing great harm and sufferring as were the philistines. 

schumann made a sort of joke about these philistines.  and yet - it was, imo, a true historical fact.  the philistines did, in fact, exist.  and - they caused great trouble for the israelites at one point.  now, if we are (as christians) spiritual israel - then our first jobs when Christ returns will be to help eradicate WAR.

we will be turning swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks (there are obviously many more weapons now than they had in bible times - but you get the idea).  there will be no more tears and no more crying.

also, there will be peace among the animals - even.  God will make the lion lie down with the lamb.  HOW?  I don't know.  God is God.  He probably made eden that way.  peaceful.  i don't think people started actually eating meat until they were turned out of the garden.  things changed when sin entered the world.  life was harder. 

but, if God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only Begotten Son - that whoso believes believeth in Him - should not PERISH but have everlasting life!  that means that these people that HAVE everlasting  life will be living again.  they will be RULING with Christ.  does it mean they want to wield evil power?  no.  Christ said they will be servants of the people and not 'lord it over them.  the world will be a better place because rules will be in place to keep things in order instead of chaos.  everyone will know the 'game' and it will be easier to keep things according to the 'spirit' of the matter  because we will finally know what true LOVE is.

so...the question is - when is Jesus Christ returning.  in our lifetime?  could be!  very soon.  also, i think that it is very possible we will know the year.  he says we won't know the day or the hour - but in prophecy - when things start unfolding  - the tribulation is a set period of time.  3 1/2 years.  hell on earth before heaven (the kingdom).
You're at it again, Susan dear; you've been really good lately about keeping this kind of thing in perspective and not turning on the biblical tap in disproportionate fashion, but...

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #30 on: January 10, 2007, 06:38:16 PM
ok. ahinton.  how about this?  igor stravinsky wrote 'the soldier's tale' with this very idea in mind.  getting rid of the 'system' of corruption.

this was the plan:  the soldier gets the devil drunk on vodka.  then, he tricks him into eating buckshot by telling him it's caviar.  the devil eats it and dies. 

did you know that stravinsky had not heard any jazz at this point - but had access to one piece of music that was written in a jazz fashion.  and that is where some of the inspiration of this piece came from.  at least that's what i heard on wrti.

ahinton, it is very interesting what you say about uk pensions and also european nations/community.  here in the usa - i thought it was interesting that at the turn of the century the gold standard was actually challenged by juilliard (spelled it right this time) who did not want to be paid a large sum in paper money - and took this person to court and lost.  that was nearly 100 plus years ago now!  so -- you can guess what the standard for our paper money is. 

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #31 on: January 10, 2007, 07:21:21 PM
My vote for "other", i.e. no without "er..". My goal is not to rule the world but to overcome it. Someday I want to live in complete seclusion, in a small hut in the middle of nowhere, no contact to the world, only with some books, some instruments, a heap of scores and another one of empty music paper. I want to die in complete lack of the illusion that the world has anything worthwhile to offer. As long as you strive for something you will be subject to disappointment, because either your wish is never fulfilled or it is fulfilled and you come to see how stupid it was to strive for that, so you pick something else and imagine that this will be the real thing and you will be happy once this is achieved. You won't be, because there is no end to that chain, unless you break it and live without wishes - and with peace of mind in exchange.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #32 on: January 10, 2007, 08:29:29 PM
If i ask myself this question "Do i wish secretely to rule the world?" now after this day I think it is okay if I quote something I wrote today for myself:


"I had to leave my flat at dusk. I had to teach another little student at their home :).The feeling of being able to breathe was (and is still) incredible. I am so thankful that I can breathe and be connected with the world around me, suck it in and live! Pure life, pure connection to the world, the sky, the dark blue light and the mysterious clouds. All this sends messages to me as soon as I leave the house. Sometimes these messages are sad, today they were not. The clouds are forming pictures "for me". Of course it is not only for me, hee hee ;D. But I can get the "message" and probably other millions of sky watchers can read their individual messages too. And if I want I can feel united with them in my thoughts. And I want."

So  I don't want to rule the world. I am in the world. I want to feel the world. I am thankful for the gift that I can feel it. Awake every day. See the sky. And the diamonds (which must not be confused with Lsd btw ;)) which are formed out of enormous pressure inside the rocks. See the smile in the face of my little piano students when they have their feelings of success.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #33 on: January 10, 2007, 09:31:09 PM
dear pianowolfi,

i relate to that picture a lot!  we had a short flurry of snow here at noon - and then we had these big puffy clouds and the sunshine was coming through.  and, i was looking up and saw stuff in the clouds too.

things that are full of life make me happy, too.  when my daughter came home - we watched this flock of birds flying like the 'blue angels' (fighter jets) and doing 5-7 'moves' synchronized in a huge flock.  they were very very close together.  so MANY birds.  then, they landed.  i told my daughter they were probably planning their next aeronautical moves - but i called it 'school' so she would relate.  she laughed and said 'no' and that they were having 'music lessons' now.

imo, this is all out of our hands.  i mean if God made the world and made the plans for the world - we can't really change them.  God is God. 

you know - oranges all have the same amount of sections (i think seven) also , grapefruit have twelve.  you cut them in half and count them - and they're always the same unless tampered with.  now, the week is the same - 7 days.  if one day with God is as a thousand to us - then seven thousand years would fulfill a week!  a 'God week.'  and, we know that the millenium is 1000 years.  so - i don't think this world has much longer to go.

look at the middle east.  how long do you think this can go on?  would you want it to go on much longer?  people killing and getting killed.  how much more of this DEATH do we want?  it's just going to get worse before it gets better.  but, then Christ is going to return.  it's written out for us - ahead of time - and caused to be (i don't know how).  israel was prophecied to have a return.  the fact that the nation of israel still exists today and is a battleground is because God's word fulfills itself. 

if you want to be on the winning team - pick God's team.  fight against the concepts of evil and sin.  don't do anything to hinder God's plan - as he doesn't want us to accept the mark of the beast power (which is ANTI-GOD and ANTI-Christ).  even if you cannot buy and sell - you know that the time is going to get shorter and shorter before the actual return of our savior - from the time that israel is DESECRATED to the RETURN OF CHRIST will be 3 1/2 years!   He never fails - and HE will return!

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #34 on: January 10, 2007, 09:32:17 PM
ok. ahinton.  how about this?  igor stravinsky wrote 'the soldier's tale' with this very idea in mind.  getting rid of the 'system' of corruption.

this was the plan:  the soldier gets the devil drunk on vodka.  then, he tricks him into eating buckshot by telling him it's caviar.  the devil eats it and dies. 

did you know that stravinsky had not heard any jazz at this point - but had access to one piece of music that was written in a jazz fashion.  and that is where some of the inspiration of this piece came from.  at least that's what i heard on wrti.

ahinton, it is very interesting what you say about uk pensions and also european nations/community.  here in the usa - i thought it was interesting that at the turn of the century the gold standard was actually challenged by juilliard (spelled it right this time) who did not want to be paid a large sum in paper money - and took this person to court and lost.  that was nearly 100 plus years ago now!  so -- you can guess what the standard for our paper money is. 
Indeed so!

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #35 on: January 10, 2007, 09:36:32 PM
in the garden of eden - God gave man the opportunity to rule the world.  so, in actuality we ALREADY rule the world.  but, with SAtan's help.  the millenium will be mankind ruling with God's help.   who's going to be ruled?  well, ezekiel mentions the valley of dry bones.  all these people will be ressurrected that haven't heard about Christ and that want to come to salvation as well.  it is said, in the OT prophets that people will live to 100 in a more healthy way.  and  perhaps be changed without having death anymore.  because Christ came to eliminate death forever.  i think it is why he made butterflies.  so we can see the idea of a cocoon and then a totally NEW creation.  freer.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #36 on: January 10, 2007, 11:21:43 PM
No no no no no no no no no no no

PLEASE Susan stop now  8)

You've been such a good girl lately, and it's best not to spoil that.


We all want Thal back (with you), but I think that maybe you might hex proceedings thus... ;)
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #37 on: January 11, 2007, 03:00:26 AM
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Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #38 on: January 11, 2007, 04:06:40 PM
what about relationships.  i mean God wants a relationship with us that is personal.  all through the bible - He develops these relationships with specific people.  we have similar relationships with spouse, family, friends, and even 'enemies.'  how we relate to people.  there is always something to learn.  i think God enjoys teaching.

for instance, before i had children - i only thought about myself.  i even sort of expected my husband to take care of me - in some ways (mentally and somewhat physically).  but, as you mature - it turns around - and you seek ways to take care of others.  when i had my first child - at first i thought 'this is too much...i can't do this.'  but, then, i found out that i could.  it's like a difficult piece of  music.  you think you can't get through it - and then suddenly you break through the 'wall' that was before you.

my wall at first was sacrificing my wants for someone else's needs.  i mean - who wants to get up at 12  2 and 4  (or whatever it was) for a newborn baby.  changing the diaper and feeding.  but, you see them grow and thrive and it makes you want to do it again the next night.  when they seem to enjoy what you can give them -- it's a wonderful thing to learn to share.

then - you learn you can juggle taking care of several people.  one thing i've found, though, is that we all need someone to fill our 'cup' up again to have more to give to our families.  you need someone or something to keep you happy, too.  music has been a HUGE thing - so i understand whoever was talking about having an 'island' and just playing music.  that IS my island when i'm completely zapped of energy.  also, the spiritual island you go on if you pray.  prayer kinda rejuvinates your mind.  and music your body and energy level.  also, physical exercise.

but, anyways - as i see it - God makes things at different levels.  you start with your friends, your mate, then your children and some progress to actually being presidents of companies or whatever.  this ability to become leaders is an important process.  it means you are becoming adept at personal relationships and making them work for you (and for others).  i think it's highly imortant to pay attention to.  i mean, what works and what doesn't.  i've learned flexibility is key with adults and children.

my husband took a 'leadership' seminar that villanova had offerred - and he found it helpful.  cues and insights into 'reading' people and not pushing them beyond what they are capable of or expecting the impossible - but - to encourage people to be the best they can - and to enjoy their environment of employment (or family life).  my kids constantly remind me that i need to listen closer to what they say.  for instance, my daughter says 'by now, you should know i don't like tomatoes.'  that is when there was this little bit of tomatoe sauce on something.  when i was a younger mom - i'd say 'eat it anyways.  it's good for you.'  but, i don't try to be bossy anymores.  i say 'oh, i'm sorry.  i didn't really forget - it's just that it was such a small amount.  but, i will try to remember that you don't want any.'  guess that good communication really helps people feel that they are listened to by the other person.

and, i don't think that people should strive to be 'the boss' - but it is noticable who already is when people do jobs that others don't want to.  leaders ARE servants.

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Re: Do you secretly wish to rule the world ?
Reply #39 on: January 12, 2007, 09:39:09 AM
I voted for no

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