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Offline quantum

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Recent additions to censorship filters
« on: January 29, 2007, 08:55:43 PM »
I can understand filtering out profanity and other such offensive language but why have variants of common words been filtered out?

Such as the variants of "genius" and "is"
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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 09:33:22 PM »
That is a valid question and just minutes before reading your post in the "SDC lingo problem" topic on the other board I actually did some edits in the censors in order to avoid this problem.

Most of those words filtered are not offensive but there are many good reasons for avoiding "SDC lingo" in this forum.
When members are asked to follow this guideline but still ignores it the options are unfortunately limited.
One is obviously banning but that is usually a bit of overkill for such situations and I can't remember anyone yet having been banned for that reason only.

Da SDC is a community which has found its own niche which of course deserves to be respected for what it is. I am however a bit suprised that even if one of it's keywords appears to be "respect" a few of it's members do apparently have problems with showing respect for the culture and guidlines we have here.

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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 10:58:48 PM »
That is a valid question and just minutes before reading your post in the "SDC lingo problem" topic on the other board I actually did some edits in the censors in order to avoid this problem.

Most of those words filtered are not offensive but there are many good reasons for avoiding "SDC lingo" in this forum.
When members are asked to follow this guideline but still ignores it the options are unfortunately limited.
One is obviously banning but that is usually a bit of overkill for such situations and I can't remember anyone yet having been banned for that reason only.

Da SDC is a community which has found its own niche which of course deserves to be respected for what it is. I am however a bit suprised that even if one of it's keywords appears to be "respect" a few of it's members do apparently have problems with showing respect for the culture and guidlines we have here.

Do you purchase finely balanced common sense by the methuselah* or does it just come naturally to you? Either way, many thanks for your welcome observations here.

While on the subject, if you can just somehow kindly contrive to filter out any references to "aliztah" or the like that might have the inappropriate misfortune to end up anywhere on this forum, that will be greatly appreciated (not that anyone one of us actually wants censorship per se here, naturally)...

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* "methuselah" is here given, of course, in its specific context of a multiple of a single wine bottle quantity rather than as the Biblical character with whom "pianistimo" is almost certainly more familiar that is any one of the rest of this community...
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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 01:26:05 AM »
One is obviously banning but that is usually a bit of overkill for such situations and I can't remember anyone yet having been banned for that reason only.

If you do consider using the peace approach, then why did the admin of this forum sent out PM to some of the members who used SDC lingo "2nd warning, you will be banned if u use SDC lingo again".

Isn't this of the same effect as banning someone? Or you just trying to justify your cause of unnecessary censorship by giving us a 'fair warning'?
Or are you trying out your own version of the newspeak dictionary?

Looking forward to your warning PM telling me not to challenge your point.
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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 11:43:41 PM »
* "methuselah" is here given, of course, in its specific context of a multiple of a single wine bottle quantity rather than as the Biblical character with whom "pianistimo" is almost certainly more familiar that is any one of the rest of this community...


Woo hoo I learned a new word XD


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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 06:30:17 AM »
Woo hoo I learned a new word XD
Did you? An actual "new" one? Or just its other context in the world of wine bottles? Anyway, let's now return it to a neat citation of the original, by considering the line

"Methuselah lived nine hundred years"

which, as doubtless you well know, comes from the Gershwin song "It Ain't Necessarily So". I have cited the lines from it

"The things that you're li'ble
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so"

to a certain lady who frequents this forum (thereby proving, as perhaps only she can with quite such regularity, that the Penn is mightier than the sword), although the purpose of my efforts would appear to have - er - "fallen on stony ground", methinks...

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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 12:21:06 PM »
"Methuselah lived nine hundred years"

which, as doubtless you well know, comes from the Gershwin song "It Ain't Necessarily So". I have cited the lines from it

"The things that you're li'ble
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so"

Well there we have it.  Not only were the Beatles bigger than Jesus, but Gershwin's lyrics more reliable that the Bible.

Pop music rules, OK?  ;)
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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 03:55:03 AM »
what is all this.  i shall now resort to calling alistair 'aliztah' just to bug him (but only in pm messages so nils won't get angry).  just when i think he's making peace and amends.  (rather like thal - i must say.  you bring not peace but a sword.  the sword of 'i'll get you on a thread you'll never read.')  well, mr alistair - i just so happened to be bored tonight and read this thread.  not that i wrote anything that needed to be censored -mind you.

but, i am curious about that bottle of 900 year old wine.  where did you find that?  or, are you saying you wish to equally divide up methusalah 9 ways - giving each of us roughly 100 years to attain wisdom only to drink ourselves silly in the end? 

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Re: Recent additions to censorship filters
«Reply #8 on: February 05, 2007, 01:26:06 PM »
i shall now resort to calling alistair 'aliztah' just to bug him (but only in pm messages so nils won't get angry).
Your misspelling never really bugs me, you know -  perhaps that's because I'm so used to it...

just when i think he's making peace and amends.  (rather like thal - i must say.  you bring not peace but a sword.  the sword of 'i'll get you on a thread you'll never read.')
I wasn't aware that I ws making peace or war, actually; the only sword I recognise in my professional activity is the occasional Damoclean one that manifests itself in the form of an alarmingly fast-approaching deadline...

well, mr alistair - i just so happened to be bored tonight and read this thread.
So you only read this thread because you were bored; I'm sure Nils will be so delighted to hear that.

but, i am curious about that bottle of 900 year old wine.  where did you find that?  or, are you saying you wish to equally divide up methusalah 9 ways - giving each of us roughly 100 years to attain wisdom only to drink ourselves silly in the end? 
Now that, I have to admit, is quite the funniest thing I think you've ever written! Well done!

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