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Offline jericho

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Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
on: February 14, 2007, 08:34:26 PM
Who wrote the more technically demanding ones? Who is more musically complex? Who is more original and innovative between the two? Whose sonatas do you generally consider as superior?

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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007, 08:53:17 PM
SCRIABIN WINS IN ALL CATEGORIES ! ! !

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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 09:23:45 PM
Prokofiev wins in all categories!
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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 09:26:40 PM
Scriabin wins in all category's
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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #4 on: February 14, 2007, 09:37:27 PM
My mother wins in all categories.

Scriabin wins in all category's
Nice plural.

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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #5 on: February 14, 2007, 10:03:49 PM
Who wrote the more technically demanding ones? Who is more musically complex? Who is more original and innovative between the two? Whose sonatas do you generally consider as superior?

Whew...that was a lot of questions.


Tech- Prokofiev
Complexity- Late Scriabin
Originality- Scriabin
Favs- possibly tied between Prok 4 and Scrib 6

Offline verywellmister

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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #6 on: February 14, 2007, 10:30:14 PM
I don't know about about technique, but Scriabin is definitely the more musically challenging.
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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #7 on: February 14, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
Who wrote the more technically demanding ones? Who is more musically complex? Who is more original and innovative between the two? Whose sonatas do you generally consider as superior?

Whew...that was a lot of questions.

They're both technically demanding, musically complex, original and innovative. But they are apples and oranges. They're completely different so it's hard to say. Prokofiev's sonatas are traditional in their use of form, while Scriabin transformed the Sonata and of course their harmonic languages are very different. Can't say that one is nessacarily better than the other, although I prefer Scriabin. That's just my taste, though.
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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #8 on: February 15, 2007, 01:46:15 AM
They both win in all categories.
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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #9 on: February 15, 2007, 11:38:09 AM
Id be inclined to side with mikey here. In terms of difficulty - there are NO easy sonatas of either composer. The prokofiev ones are typically that little bit longer and so perhaps require more stamina?!? The late sonatas of scriabin are obscenenly complexed and totally origional. I would say that scriabins first sonatas are perhaps slightly more orginal than Prokofievs no1 and Scriabin shows evidence early on of the technical and musical complexities which were to feature later in his music. My favourite sonatas to listen to: Scriabin 1-5, Prokofiev 1,3,5,6,7  In terms of interest (score studying) scriabin 4,5,8,9,10 and Prokofiev 6,7,9.

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Re: Sonatas: Scriabin vs. Prokofiev
Reply #10 on: February 15, 2007, 07:14:07 PM
prokofiev 8th (richter, gilels, gavrilov)
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