Piano Forum

Topic: Istnrtenig Fcat  (Read 2315 times)

Offline zheer

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2794
Istnrtenig Fcat
on: February 18, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
  Siecsitnts hvae rcetnely doivscred taht if the frist and lsat Lterts of a wrod are slept croecrtly, it is psiosbel to udnretsnad the maeinng of the wrods eevn if the ohetr ltetrs are angrerad in-croecrtly.
" Nothing ends nicely, that's why it ends" - Tom Cruise -

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 11:27:42 AM
Tahnks Zeehr
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 11:47:17 AM
Siecsitnts hvae rcetnely doivscred taht if the frist and lsat Lterts of a wrod are slept croecrtly,
That presumably depends upon who's "slept" with whom...

Bset,

Alsitiar
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 01:12:42 PM
i have a headache again.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 03:33:31 PM
i have a headache again.
So it obviosuly wasn't you that slpet wtih mr corrcelty, then; you had a headache instead. Why not take some pianistimacetamol (otherwise known in the US as tylenistimol)? You'll be fine in no time, I'm sure - and, once you are, you'll feel able to sleep with whomsoever you choose (and don't forget that I mention what you will be able to do, not what is compulsory for you to do...)

Best,

Ailsatri
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 03:48:35 PM
very funny, alistair!  i actually may need glasses.  shhh.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 04:36:43 PM
very funny, alistair!  i actually may need glasses.  shhh.
But how many glasses? - and of red or white wine? (you don't specify which) - and don't forget that too many of either may risk bulrirng yuor visoin, painitsomi dear...

Bste,

Alsitari
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline phil13

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1395
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 05:32:04 PM
Strange, I remember telling you this...

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13357.0.html

Phil

Offline rach n bach

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 691
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 05:33:35 PM
nnoe of tihs is ture...  erevtihng hree is fkae

bNr
I'm an optimist... but I don't think it's helping...

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
alsitari?  have you gone jihad?  or should i say 'hadji?'  in any case - i would too, if i lived in iraq.  foreign languages are enough for me.  say, have any of you watched 'most wanted' and seen that lady that is called 'the chameleon' - the only way they caught her is that her handwriting was actually on the same notepad as one of th epeople she did in.  they did an etchasketch off the paper under one she wrote on - and apparently when people are a bit psychotic they dig into the paper with their pencil or pen more. 

here's some psychobabble:  jeyce httao zursl.  talh's oodvo unt' wruk.

Offline ihatepop

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 989
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 12:41:44 PM
Istnrtenig, I jude redlezesd thwa thys thrued is strwngyly sumolir toz an emir thad i recyved befury.

izhetdpod

Offline soliloquy

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1464
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 06:52:30 AM
But how many glasses? - and of red or white wine? (you don't specify which) - and don't forget that too many of either may risk bulrirng yuor visoin, painitsomi dear...

Bste,

Alsitari


For some reason, I picture her with a rose wine.


Bste,

sooquilly

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 07:36:24 AM

For some reason, I picture her with a rose wine.


Bste,

sooquilly
Fair comment - but "sooquilly"? - I thought you used the computer keyboard like everyone else here...

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline mycrabface

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 503
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 09:33:27 AM
Istnrtenig, I jude redlezesd thwa thys thrued is strwngyly sumolir toz an emir thad i recyved befury.

izhetdpod
actually you typed it out wrongly
La Campanella Freak

Offline soliloquy

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1464
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 09:23:51 PM
aaaahhhhha duaym tihs zayheet wud be zo fcekud up wehn u cmnoibe it wiz da SDC 8)

Offline Mozartian

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 697
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 10:24:59 PM
aaaahhhhha duaym tihs zayheet wud be zo fcekud up wehn u cmnoibe it wiz da SDC 8)

Scarily, I actually understood that better and more quickly than anything else in this thread...
[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
aaaahhhhha duaym tihs zayheet wud be zo fcekud up wehn u cmnoibe it wiz da SDC 8)
To return the responses to what may pass for standard English, I have just the following observations to make.

E not only equals mc squared but is also missing from the thread title.

I had thought that "Fcat" was one of my own cats when I happen accidentally to trip over him.

"Soliloquy" now wonders "what Pierre Boulez would have to say on the matter!" (without specifying the matter concerned); my answer is that, whatever he may have thought, he'd be better off writing his Quatrième Sonate while those among the rest of us that could care less might consider the fact that Mauricio Kagel would disagree...

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline dnephi

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1859
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #17 on: February 23, 2007, 08:20:37 PM
hzrahly zdi rminezd me of da csd
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

Offline soliloquy

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1464
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #18 on: February 25, 2007, 06:35:37 PM
hzrahly zdi rminezd me of da csd


IRCRNCEOT GMRAAMH!  SDC ZAEL OF DAPIZVORPAL! 8)

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #19 on: February 25, 2007, 06:41:20 PM
capitalization doesn't help in this case.

Offline soliloquy

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1464
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #20 on: February 25, 2007, 06:47:51 PM
capitalization doesn't help in this case.


ahaha i know it only makes it more difficult to read.  But:


SDC ZEAL OF DIZAPPROVAL!


must always be written in caps.

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #21 on: February 25, 2007, 06:53:29 PM
ah.  i see.  z = s  yes. 

gaining secret information is best done by playing dumb.

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #22 on: February 25, 2007, 07:41:28 PM
You should be good at it then.

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline zheer

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2794
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #23 on: February 25, 2007, 08:02:23 PM
You should be good at it then.

Thal

  Ooooooooooo,fight fight fight.
" Nothing ends nicely, that's why it ends" - Tom Cruise -

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #24 on: February 25, 2007, 08:12:49 PM
post your REAL iq score and we'll see about that.

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #25 on: February 25, 2007, 10:51:43 PM
post your REAL iq score and we'll see about that.

I have Mrs amoeba brain.

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #26 on: February 26, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
i doubt very much you are at 160.  my guess is that you are probably in reality 10 points over me...but don't tell me.  it's much better that way.  women are always right.  it's time you learn that.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #27 on: February 26, 2007, 07:52:36 AM
women are always right.  it's time you learn that.
Would you include Joyce Hatto in that?

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #28 on: February 26, 2007, 01:49:30 PM
the last time i looked she was right.  and female, too.  perhaps even right handed?  well, if you've ever had the experience of telling a woman she was wrong - then you know nothing of revenge.  the look.  the glare.  women know they are right.  therefore, they are right.  you do not turn around and tell your mother that it's too warm outside for your hat and gloves.  you just put them on and rip them off when she shuts the door.  although, sadly - lately my son now doesn't even wear his coat at 10 degrees above as some sort of 'message' to me.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #29 on: February 26, 2007, 03:10:47 PM
the last time i looked she was right.  and female, too.  perhaps even right handed?
Is this a response to my question about Joyce Hatto in this context? If so, I wonder if you've been following any of the Hatto case recently and would appreciate some kind of explanation of what you mean here.

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline dnephi

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1859
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #30 on: February 26, 2007, 03:18:15 PM
Thal's IQ is a function of how much intoxicating substance he has ingested.  It's not too terribly predictable. 

Dan
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #31 on: February 26, 2007, 03:37:48 PM
Thal's IQ is a function of how much intoxicating substance he has ingested.  It's not too terribly predictable.
Since you seem confidently authoritative that this is indeed a fact and that the statistic concerned is therefore not only unpredictable but perpetually fluctuating, can you confirm that the figure for it at the end of any given day represents a measurement in cl. for that day? Just curious...

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #32 on: February 26, 2007, 04:29:17 PM
i think it's an attempt to keep women from being respected artists in a field where men dominate.  it's a ploy.  the woman didn't need to plagarize.  therefore, she is right.  she doesn't sound a whit like vladimir ashkenazy.  every person has their own sound.  she had a definate sound of her own.  why would she seek to plagarize recordings.  this sounds a mite stupid for the courts to spend hours going through her recordings and culling what 'sounds like this or sounds like that.'  these people are idiots.  and i use the word freely, knowing that someday i may be called to account for this.  well, when i do - i will ask God 'were they or weren't they?' 

who has challenged any male pianists this way.  especially after they are deceased.  trapclap is that which someone pounds into the ground.  i hope these people go deaf from listening so intently.

ps if william barrington-coupe did this AFTER HER DEATH - he is a very naughty boy.

Offline lagin

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 844
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #33 on: February 26, 2007, 04:48:05 PM
Actually, it is pretty amazing.  At least I think so.  I totally can understand what is written without hardly any effort.  However, some other posts didn't do it quite right, and sure enough, I couldn't read them and had to individually unscramble each word. 

I am very easily amused..
Christians aren't perfect; just forgiven.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #34 on: February 26, 2007, 06:06:22 PM
i think it's an attempt to keep women from being respected artists in a field where men dominate.  it's a ploy.  the woman didn't need to plagarize.  therefore, she is right.  she doesn't sound a whit like vladimir ashkenazy.  every person has their own sound.  she had a definate sound of her own.  why would she seek to plagarize recordings.  this sounds a mite stupid for the courts to spend hours going through her recordings and culling what 'sounds like this or sounds like that.'  these people are idiots.  and i use the word freely, knowing that someday i may be called to account for this.  well, when i do - i will ask God 'were they or weren't they?' 

who has challenged any male pianists this way.  especially after they are deceased.  trapclap is that which someone pounds into the ground.  i hope these people go deaf from listening so intently.

ps if william barrington-coupe did this AFTER HER DEATH - he is a very naughty boy.
What you write here - if it is to be taken seriously - shows just how little you appear to know about this subject. William Barrington-Coupe has now confessed to BIS that he did make fake CDs, thereby contradicting what he'd said previously, although he's not yet admitted how many of the 119 are indeed fakes. He also claims only to have done it for his wife, yet at the same tinme appears to seek to imply that she knew nothing about it; how could he have done it for her if she was wholly unaware of what he was doing in her name? Sorry, but this is just a piece of sob-story stuff that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The courts won't need to spend hours going through any of "her" recordings unless the defendant challenges any of the alleged fakes by claiming that they're genuine; his confession points to the fact that he won't now do this. The evidence will be there, of course, but it is unlikely to be questioned and will only be used for illustrative purposes to help the jury form its opinion (not an easy task, since this would require professional skills not likely to be found among randomly selected jurors). But you suggest that you know what "her" sound is like - which means that you have actually heard her play live; where and when did you do that, may I ask? - and do bear in mind that she's not played in public since you were at high school. Your assumption that all pianists have a different sound is sadly misplaced; if only it were true! Do also bear in mind that the suspicions were finally aroused by someone unable to believe that the pianist playing the Mozart sonatas was the same one playing the Prokofiev "War" sonatas; now, of course, any really fine pianist will have a diffeent sound for these two very different areas of the repertoire and so they should, but the differences here were evidently thought to be wider than just that

As far as I know, about one third of these 119 recordings have now been tested and found to be fake and, although most of the pianists whose work WB-C chose to steal happen to be male, the Mozart sonatas are believed to be played by Ingrid Hæbler, so even your male-dominated argument falls flat and the only "dominant male" involved in this appears to have been WB-C himself in his presumed capacity as ringleader of this whole sorry exercise.

Sorry, Susan, but there's no getting away from the facts that we do know already, even though they are not yet complete.

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline dnephi

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1859
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #35 on: February 26, 2007, 06:08:08 PM
Since you seem confidently authoritative that this is indeed a fact and that the statistic concerned is therefore not only unpredictable but perpetually fluctuating, can you confirm that the figure for it at the end of any given day represents a measurement in cl. for that day? Just curious...

Best,

Alistair
There was a mathematician who proved that any system cannot be proven true from within that system.  Similarly, we cannot prove anything about Thal without first living pianostreet.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #36 on: February 26, 2007, 08:40:55 PM
i thought i heard a re-run u-tube of joyce hatto.  excuse me if i didn't.  in any case, i defer to you alistair.  but, just remember - she didn't have to plagarize when she was alive.  seems strange that this man is trying to make money off of her after she is dead.  i think he's more at fault than her.  but, what do i know.  i didn't know her and never heard her play a live concert as you say.  being a pianist, i know that each person has a sound like a thumbprint and it's mighty hard to make vladamir ashkenazy's.

ps yeah.  he's probably not even going to climb mt. blanc.  he just says that to impress people.  anyways - i watched 'ascending K-2' again last night - because he's such a know-it-all about high altitudes.  if only he knew what awaits him at 5,000 ft.  although goran kropp seems to think climbing K-2 is only honestly done without oxygen.  otherwise he says the moutain isn't really that high.  it didn't say how long it took him to recover in katmandu.  say - i read something about needing a helmet on mt blanc, too, because of chamous? the climbers above tend to send rocks on the climbers below.

dear alistair,  did joyce hatto die in 2002 or 2006?  she seems as mysterious as sorabji.

Offline ahinton

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12149
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #37 on: February 26, 2007, 09:33:55 PM
i thought i heard a re-run u-tube of joyce hatto.  excuse me if i didn't.  in any case, i defer to you alistair.  but, just remember - she didn't have to plagarize when she was alive.  seems strange that this man is trying to make money off of her after she is dead.  i think he's more at fault than her.  but, what do i know.  i didn't know her and never heard her play a live concert as you say.
No, she didn't have to. And maybe she didn't do it anyway if someone else did it for her with or withour her knowledge. The fact remains that these CDs began to come out while she was apparently alive and continued to do so after she apparently died.

being a pianist, i know that each person has a sound like a thumbprint
No, Susan - as I said before, they should have but all too many of them just don't any more. The late great and much missed Shura Cherkassky (who most certainly did) said in an interview quite late in life that the pianists of the present day "all play so WELL!". Ouch!

dear alistair,  did joyce hatto die in 2002 or 2006?  she seems as mysterious as sorabji.
She is said to have died at the end of last June; whether or not she did, I cannot say for certain so, in that sense as well as in numerous others, she was rather more of a mystery than Sorabji...

Best,

Alistair
Alistair Hinton
Curator / Director
The Sorabji Archive

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #38 on: February 26, 2007, 09:39:49 PM

ps yeah.  he's probably not even going to climb mt. blanc.  he just says that to impress people.  anyways - i watched 'ascending K-2' again last night - because he's such a know-it-all about high altitudes.  if only he knew what awaits him at 5,000 ft. 

I won't even be drawing breath at 5,000 ft. K2 is almost 13,000 ft higher than Mt Blanc, there is no comparison.

I might do mt Ararat next year to disprove that laughable Noahs Ark crap you came out with last year.

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #39 on: February 26, 2007, 09:45:12 PM
if you do that - i'll have to go, too.  i hear it is very dangerous.  you get close to the area and all of a sudden the turks go crazy and chase you all around.  nobody knows what happens high up in the mountains like that.  one day you think you paid for a vacation - next day you are injured and cannot go further.

as far as i hear (and it's only by googling) about mt blanc is that there is one particular crevace that people have to jump.  oh.  and someone said it is not a good idea to only wear jeans and nothing else - because it can get miserably cold after dark.

ps i am aware of the dramatic distinction between the two peaks.  unfortunately our bodies only recognize a certain height...and after that - it's a moot point exactly how high you are.  but, if i understand you correctly...you can train your body to take altitudes beforehand.  this kropp guy (swede) cycled most of the way to K-2 - carried his stuff up to base camp - and ascended without oxygen.! well, if you are right - you will be way over 160 in iq imo.

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #40 on: February 26, 2007, 09:52:48 PM
You make stating the bleeding obvious seem like an artform sometimes.

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline dnephi

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1859
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #41 on: February 27, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Psi*Psi
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #42 on: February 27, 2007, 08:22:42 PM
are you a cyclist, too.  psi = pounds per square inch or something like that.  anyways.  my tires are about 90.  but, i finally found this tube that is within another tube so my tires don't pop when i'm miles away from civilization.

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #43 on: February 27, 2007, 10:55:29 PM
90psi is not enough for a road bike.

You need 120psi.

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Istnrtenig Fcat
Reply #44 on: February 27, 2007, 11:25:58 PM
i don't have a road bike.  i have a racing bike. 
For more information about this topic, click search below!

Piano Street Magazine:
The Complete Piano Works of 16 Composers

Piano Street’s digital sheet music library is constantly growing. With the additions made during the past months, we now offer the complete solo piano works by sixteen of the most famous Classical, Romantic and Impressionist composers in the web’s most pianist friendly user interface. Read more
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert