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Offline lisztisforkids

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Shame on you pianostreet
on: March 08, 2007, 08:32:11 AM
Whatever happened to the old friendly, respectfull pianostreet?
we make God in mans image

Offline ihatepop

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 08:39:39 AM
Lost in the mountain of rubble of religion and spam.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 08:44:56 AM
Well it depends of us all. Pianostreet is a place which I will always keep in special remembrance and I don't like to criticize it permanently. Let's write interesting and friendly and also funny posts and keep the good spirit which is still somewhere there.

Offline living_stradivarius

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 06:06:32 PM
Why avoid discussion over key issues that affect our policies today?

This is the anything but piano forum after all.
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 06:32:06 PM
What happened to everyone else?

Dan
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 07:11:52 PM
This place used to be a lot more fun and a lot less political. I think it is now full of very serious people with little sense of humor. They are all sitting there with frowns on their faces, and something lodged up their bottoms.
No not really.
But this place used to be real cool. It was somewhat of a paradise away from the other serious and shite places ive walked on the web.
But maybe the whole venting thing will do this place some good and things will improve.
One thing ive learnt about this place, it is never the same place, it is ever changing. So why not help form that pleasant environment that used to characterise it.
night all.
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 08:01:16 PM
Religion destroys everything it infects. Its vile tongue has slithered its way into this forum and what you see now is the result.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 08:06:56 PM
Both me and Pianistimo have been here for a long time.
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 08:13:10 PM
Of course, I go to www.classicalmusicguide.com for my political debates :D
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Prometheus
Both me and Pianistimo have been here for a long time.

What's your point? The raging religious debate has only recently begun to surface, and it now infects everything. It has spread like a virus and cannot be stopped. I've been here longer than you anyway you putz.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
The debate's been going on for a very very long time.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 08:26:36 PM
I have been here since 2003 and ever since I have had some debates on religion every once in a while.
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 09:11:11 PM
I have been here since 2003 and ever since I have had some debates on religion every once in a while.

And I've been here longer than you and I don't remember this crap.  Definitely not in such a high concentration.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 09:42:26 PM
Religion destroys everything it infects. Its vile tongue has slithered its way into this forum and what you see now is the result.

I find myself in complete agreement.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 10:48:03 PM
i disagree on the religion being bad part. It is not so much a matter of religion being bad, or no religion being good, etc etc. Its about a balance. Its hard to say the world would be *** perfect had it not been for religion.
It is just a weak and hypothetical argument. So the world would have been overun by huns, mongols, vikings etc etc. sh*t i dont know about the history.
But it is so easy to sit there after witnessing 1000's of years of religious war and wrong doing and to say all religion is evil. That people. Is offensive. Just as offensive as insulting someones sexual orientation or skin colour.
Why even go there? just respect other peoples beliefs, and shooo!
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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 11:32:12 PM
So when someone lashes down on my view that the universe is static that is also offensive?

Or if I propose there is an ether to which everything moves?

Or even stranger claims in the realm of science that don't only lack evidence but also seem to go against all we know?


It's a choice. If you have ideas then you need to be able to defend them. If not, keep them totally private.

Say no against special standards for religious ideas because they are 'holy' and 'sacred'.

It is not offensive to say that someone's religion is bullshit. It is not. Don't compare it to racism.

This is exactly the taboo that needs to be broken.
"As an artist you don't rake in a million marks without performing some sacrifice on the Altar of Art." -Franz Liszt

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #16 on: March 09, 2007, 08:27:34 PM
Pianistimo offends my brain cells everytime my eye accidentally catches a glimpse of her convoluted nonsense.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #17 on: March 09, 2007, 08:57:48 PM
She irritates me, but i still love her.

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #18 on: March 09, 2007, 09:46:06 PM
What's your point? The raging religious debate has only recently begun to surface, and it now infects everything. It has spread like a virus and cannot be stopped. I've been here longer than you anyway you putz.

Disagreements aren't a problem, neither is controversy, a little offense now and again is no big deal.

Welcome to the internet!

If raging debate has spread through this forum, it's because we've let it.  It's up to each of us if we want to argue with whatever we disagree with, or if we'd rather click on more agreeable threads.

The piano-specific areas are pretty harmonious.  There are a few people making some good contributions around there!

If people want to make a big deal of it... well, enjoy the results.  How many seperate threads do we now have from this one issue?

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Re: Shame on you pianostreet
Reply #19 on: March 09, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
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