Pelosi Almost becomes Prez

[living_stradivarius]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/04/08/bush-almost-blows-himself_n_45263.html

Bush Almost Blows Himself Up

The Detroit News   |  Posted April 8, 2007 11:26 AM
READ MORE: Ford Motor Company, George W. Bush, New York

Credit Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally with saving the leader of the free world from self-immolation.

Mulally told journalists at the New York auto show that he intervened to prevent President Bush from plugging an electrical cord into the hydrogen tank of Ford's hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid at the White House last week. Ford wanted to give the Commander-in-Chief an actual demonstration of the innovative vehicle, so the automaker arranged for an electrical outlet to be installed on the South Lawn and ran a charging cord to the hybrid. However, as Mulally followed Bush out to the car, he noticed someone had left the cord lying at the rear of the vehicle, near the fuel tank.

[pianistimo]

yikes.  i'm sure pelosi would then make another wonderful trip to syria to celebrate.  btw, i agree with her about getting the troops out.  but, she has no sense of dignity to the commander-in-chief.  she must wait her turn.

do you ever wonder what a catfight would  look like between pelosi and hillary.  just wondering.

[living_stradivarius]

He really wasn't in danger, but funny story nonetheless.

[pianistimo]

i knew there was a reason my husband didn't like ford.  in the old days, they were good, imo - but became cheap.  now they are stupid.

we don't want the baby in the backseat in flames.

btw, the one thing i am more careful about now is the brake check-ups on the honda odessy mini-van.  i thought you could fudge a few miles from the recommended allowance.  we got the thing in just in time - because the mechanic said we had literally 'minutes' on our brakes. 

[cygnusdei]

Did you forget VP Cheney?

[living_stradivarius]

No, Cheney was next to Bush when this happened.

[Bob]

If it wasn't so serious, it would almost be laughable if it happened.  All the protection against terrorists, yadda yadda yadda and the world leaders get taken out by a hybrid car.

The first woman president and our "silly" mark on history to live with forever.  I wonder how significant that could have been -- would it change history greatly, or would it have just been a blip in history -- new president for a year and then someone new gets elected anyway next year.

That would rank up there with stabbing yourself with a conducting  baton and dying that way.

[prometheus]

I agree with Bob. But it would be sad for their families.


Imagine being a history student in the future and reading about the American Empire. There you read about a low point or end of the American Empire under the poor leadership of G W Bush. You read about his mistakes and about the so called 'war on terror' and all the limitations of civil rights that came with it.
And then the story finishes with the death of his great leader, blowing himself up as described here.

That would be so funny. It would so put Darius the III to shame. History can actually be funny like that.

[Bob]

ooo   Tell us the story of Darius III.  Do tell.

[m]

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1815757/posts

[prometheus]

Darius the III was the last king of the mighty Persian empire. He fought two battles against Alexander where his flight from the battlefield caused his huge army to lose.

Then he died a pathetic death being murdered by his own men and dumped near a desert oasis in the middle of nowhere.

If you tell it in the most dramatic way...


It would be nice if future history students could also read about the pathetic Bush the II and his pathetic death alongside with Darius the III and his pathetic death, both being the last rules of great and historical significant empires.

It's nice to read about great 'losers' that once ruled the world.

[pianistimo]

world events are not as simple as one person's mistakes or seeming mistakes (i happen to think there are divine reasons for prophecy being fulfilled exactly as the bible says).  infiltration happens 20-50 years before major events.  many people in our country are not here for our personal benefit.  they want to come and take what we have and reduce us to ashes.  i understand the common complaint of greed.  but, take the other side also.  which country has significantly encouraged 'walls to fall.'  do you think that west germany would have united with east germany on it's own - without pressure?  sometimes democracy has done great good.  but, for those who hate america - they only see the evil.

what we are witnessing (or have been for the last several years) is not the independence of national countries fighting for democracy.  what is actually being fought for is coalitions of many nations uniting.  this is also happening with churches.  we are finding the world in big conglomerates working together.  this is indicative of the prophecies of daniel where the ten toes (made of clay) are like the roman nations of old that united for the common good of rome.  but, they were independent states - and had different customs and all - but were becoming unified for a time so that all would benefit.

the great world empires - persian, greek, roman... they all had to have a certain amount of time to convince people of every nation that this system would be for the common good.  the military is a great part of it - but not the entire source of the spread of whatever is being touted.  for many years in the 'free world' another 'doctrine' than american empire has been taught.  it has been the 'doctrine' of accepting a world empire.  i don't think that 'empire' has ever been the ideal word to use for a country which has been losing it's islands and waterways since the 50's.  even for britain (which DID call itself the british empire) - the rock of gibralter has always signified strength of the economy and strength of the peoples - is now owned by other countries isn't it?

i'd say that if you don't know it already - get used to the idea that you are not fighting for 'a country.'  you are not fighting for what you are told you are fighting for.  it's a great betrayal - and yes our system is falling down.  it started with the twin towers.  we are heading for a 'takeover.'  a hostile takeover.  one that president washington was given a vision about.  https://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/2444/gwvision.htmlwe will not be able to see our true identities - unless shown through trials - that we are and were chosen by God to carry the gospel to all the world 'and then the end shall come.'

what will happen to the world is not up to one man - or one group of nations.  it's up to God.  btw, if you don't know it already, pope ratzinger has been invited to ADDRESS the EU parliament!  what other church leader has this power?  i realize that people only think and see 'conspiracy theories.'  but, what if some have been active for long periods of time *such as the illuminati.  the idea behind that is world dominion.  it's always the goal of power hungry people to see banking and politics under the domain of a one world system.  who can gain that much power by physical forces alone.  there has to be a spiritual element.

i believe i can say - from reading the bible - that the next few years will be hugely speeding towards catastrophe.  not just weather related disasters - but political systems turned upside down.  financial systems in turmoil.  but, then a relative peace will come.  how do i know?  it's in the bible.  this peace will be at a price.  people will be asked to accept the system (the mark of the beast - or group that is attempting to rule this world system).  if you do not accept it - you might have some trouble buying or selling.  but, don't let that bother you.  what is worth your eternal life?  nothing!  Jesus Christ's death and sacrifice and ressurrection - to give us hope - can keep us in the love of God.  don't fear man - as the bible says.  fear God and give Him glory.  as handel's messiah says - in a few years we'll hear the angels singing 'glory to God in the highest!'   'the kingdoms of this world...have become...the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ - and He shall reign forever and ever.'

[pianistimo]

recently there were celebrations for the 50th anniversary of the signature of the treatise of rome.  now, as a sidenote 'action europe' is starting with germany and showing it's citizens the formal ideas (and getting responses) for the 'ideals' - which is GLOBAL.  supposedly it is for the individual rights and against 'xenophobia.'  although, one wonders with the recent anti-semitic rise in many countries of europe what the true purpose will be in the future.

[prometheus]

There is no rise in antisemitism in Europe. Those reports that claim a rise in antisemitism in Europe include things like waving a Palestinian flag, supporting the PLO and comparing Israeli policies with apartheid.

Sure, those things may be on the rise. But there is nothing antisemitic about them.

Actually those anti-Jewish incidents, which are to be condemned, almost often are in sync with atrocities carried out by Israel. So even genuine anti-Jewish incidents are not actually caused by antisemitism.

What actually happens is that traditional antisemitism is ignored while criticism of Israel is vilified.

Also, anti-Islamist tendencies are on the rise.

I don't understand the thing you are trying to say in your last post. And the other, I ignored.

[counterpoint]

I see a sort of general xenophobia in Germany and Europe, which is enforced by the difficult job situation everywhere. But I can't see a special antisemitic course.

In general, I have a great problem with people, who believe in prophecies. 
Why that? Because if all what happens is dtermined thousands (or even millions) of years ago, we cannot do anything against the evil things that are predicted. We just can wait for the catastrophes to come. And there were many catastrophes in the past as will be in the future. Fundamentalistic Christians look at every catastrophe as a sign from god - since thousands of years. But it seems, the catastrophe cannot be big enough. They are always waiting for a bigger one. It's really strange...

[pianistimo]

i don't think Christians want catastrophes, per se.  the judgement of God is full of mercy.  in the bible it says for our sakes he will 'cut short' the time.  the 'tribulation.'  but, there is a sort of appeasement that does happen when people turn to God and repent.  repentance shows God that it is worth having mercy.  turning to him in peaceful times is better than in troubled times.  if you turn to Him now - there is more mercy to be found - according to the bible.  'perhaps He will hide you in the day of trouble...'  is one verse that sticks in my mind.  also, in Matt.  i have no idea what it means that 'one will be taken, the other left.'  taken where?  i don't know.  enoch was 'taken.'  probably same word.  in any case, God is powerful and can take us or do with us whatever He wishes.  if we are 'attuned' to the Holy Spirit - we can read the bible and correlate it with current events even if the bible was written so many years ago.  that is what the word 'prophecy' means.  yet to be fulfilled.  not ALL of it has been fulfilled. 

i don't think Christians are told to just sit around waiting for catastrophe.  they are told to 'preach the gospel of the kingdom of God.'  that means to give people hope that good things will happen after the bad.  God does not stop humans from fighting world wars.  and yes, there have been many.  and, yet, during and after each one - people suddenly realize the huge cost of world wars.  the many deaths.  and what is accomplished? does it bring peace?  no.  just makes the set-up for the next world war.  that is why Jesus Christ has to return.  to bring peace to the world.  no man seems to be able to truly make peace so that little children can play in the streets safely - and older people retire in saftey without theft and murder.  everyone.  even the animals are said to be at peace.  like it was in eden.  i don't think it's such a bad hope.  is there any other?

[counterpoint]

i don't think it's such a bad hope.  is there any other?

My hope is, that there is justice on the long run. That people who begin wars, will be sentenced for the evil, they have done to innocent people. Perhaps by a court of justice, perhaps by fate (whatever that is expected to be). But I don't have any hope in a 'god', since there were so many chances for the gods to stop evil, where they didn't do anything. Why should they do next time...?

[pianistimo]

terrorists are hard to find.  usually the people that are dead are the ones that would be sentencing anyone.  i realize that terrorists are people too, with agendas - just like the usa. but, the thing is - that everyone is evil.  noone is good excepting God.  that makes everyone on trial.