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Offline doxy

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Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
on: April 20, 2007, 03:57:43 PM
Dear friends and colleagues,
My rec of Bach/Kempff Siciliano in g minor from Flute Sonata no. 2
Kind regards,
Doxy
www.doriangriner.com

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 02:35:30 PM
Hi Dorian! I´m already a fan of yours. ;D Thrully a wonderfull job. So delicate, so intimate. That´s a great recording of this piece. I have listened to it before with much more pedaling and more legato. But I prefer your version. The other version I listened latttely was to romantic imo. You are very true to the caracter of Bach´s music, and very inventive as well. I love your singing, This piece has a very angelical mood, and you deliver it so well.

BTW, the quality of the recording itslef is fabulous. Thanks for sharing this.

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 01:12:03 AM
don't get mad at me dorian.  i like it the other way (not so much staccato) because of the flute idea.  but, as said above- everyone plays it that way - so maybe having a little difference is more inventive.

you are really good at middle lines.  i'd like to hear a lot more bass though.

is it supposed to be major at the end?  wow.  i must have missed that.  i guess bach occasionally did this - but somehow it makes light of the serious nature of this work at the end. it feels like a spoof.  that's just my interpretation.  and, i have not looked at the last chord to see what bach originally wrote.  my gut instinct tells me that if bach intended this - he might have also turned the key to G major at the first 'supposed' ending - before the attached codetta - and kept it in G major until the end.  but, he did not.  that is my reasoning.

ok.  i listened to it three times.  the third time - i sort of accepted the G major at the end - but need to hear it more pronounced and longer so that it sort of balances the sudden idea of it being there.

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 07:07:32 AM
doxy, thank you very much for this exquisite performance. i truly enjoyed it.

all the best,

tds
dignity, love and joy.

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 02:34:11 AM
I am still amazed with your recording. Can you tell wich isntrument is that, and where was it recorded? it has a very nice reverberation. I guess it´s a fairly large room. :)

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 10:45:34 PM
i liked the 'kiss' of the length of the last chord (second take).  it makes sense to me.  i hear the 'flute' - but, dorian, can you KEEP the middle voices (which sounded so great!) and just ADD the bass?  not just at the end - but everywhere?  sorry to be so demanding.  i mean - you did ask.  ps  i really liked the less staccato - and more legato. 

ok.  this is what i mean.  the highest voice will project on it's own because of it being in the treble.  (so less attention there) - more legato bass - go ahead and bring out the middle voices as you were - and make it all sort of 'fugish.'  like a fugue is going on under the flute playing.  only a very very slight dynamic variation comparison between the top (flute) voice and the rest of the voices.

you know how fugues kind of 'take-off' on their own.  just to hear what it would sound like - can you not do any dramatic cresecendos and decrescendos (or accelerando/ritard) in the fugue part (reserving them for the flute part) - so it's kind of like a fugue with flute playing over the top?

ps if you ever eat other people's flavor of ice-cream - you'll put up with this.

pss the treble of this piano has been jacked.  several notes sound like loose teeth.  can you fix that too?  i know.  demanding.  well, it's just a suggestion.  it makes me want to smack this piano's treble.  key slap, you know.

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 09:54:33 AM
wow.  dorian.  you can do anything.  i know you didn't want to sound like kempff, per se - but to me this sounds like YOU, too.  sorry for all these personal preferences.  but, it just proves to me that good artists can do anything.  manipulate the music to do many different things.  thanks!  you're nice.

ps this is really one of the best performances i've ever heard of this piece.  probably including kempffs. 

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 02:48:16 PM
Allow me to say that. Personaly, I prefer Dorian´s rendition better than Kempf´s.  ::)

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 03:38:54 PM
i suppose dorians way was perfectly fine, too.  that's why i mentioned ice-cream flavors.  i think dorian is nice.  willing to try other things and yet stick to what he likes too.

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 04:02:25 PM
thiz true. I also like Haggen Dazz lemon. 8)

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 04:03:53 PM
sorry for that. I´m so crappy....

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Re: Bach/Kempff Piano Transcriptions
Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 04:36:30 PM
Hello Pianistimo, tds and piano 121,
I am very thankful and humbled for such comments, I really did not expect such feedback, which I feel is very exeggerated. The rec was made at Vestry Hall, a concert venue of London College of Music, on Steinway B. All recs I submitted which could have been much better)  were made at the former as well.
Kindest regards from UK,
Doxy
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