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Offline amirawad

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Piano concertos
on: March 06, 2004, 04:17:43 PM
I want to ask what is the most easy piano concerto to begin with ? And how to practice it?

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Re: Piano concertos
Reply #1 on: March 06, 2004, 04:29:54 PM
haydn d concerto is generally considered to be the best first concert. but i recomend my students to start with mozart's rondo's (there are two of them, if i'm right). also, mozart has some concerts practically written for children - especially c major (kv 27... something :)) - they're really simple both musical and technical.

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Re: Piano concertos
Reply #2 on: March 07, 2004, 02:48:24 AM
A lot of Russian Composers wrote concertinos.  Perhaps you should start with something by Kabalevsky.

Beethoven's first is pretty good too.
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Reply #3 on: March 07, 2004, 04:07:45 AM
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Beethoven's first is pretty good too.


I dont agree.

If were you i would begin with Mozarts piano concerto num 21 or Haydns piano concerto in D.
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Re: Piano concertos
Reply #4 on: March 07, 2004, 12:55:18 PM
Thanks , I started practicing Mozart no 12 , What if I want to play Chopin's concertos , which is the better one to begin with E minor or F minor ?

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Re: Piano concertos
Reply #5 on: March 08, 2004, 12:43:48 AM
The Haydn D major is a magnificent concerto to start with, and it's also well received when performed. it was my first.  or start the Schumann concerto.  It's fairly easy and will require minimal amount of work.  also The Mozart Concerto no. 12, 14, 19, 21, or 23.  the better out of the Chopin I'd have to say would be the F minor it's not very difficult and it's an amazingly beautiful piece, my teacher was in the front row weeping when I played the second movement all 6 times I performed it;  I dunno if it was for a good reason or for a bad reason.  It's still a really beautiful piece and very playable

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Reply #6 on: March 08, 2004, 05:26:54 AM
The Haydn D major is a terrific first piano concerto. (You might want to also consider his F major and G major, both small gems that are very rarely performed.)The Mozart No. 12 is also an excellent concerto for beginners. (It was also my first concerto.) Technically not very demanding but very musical.

Some others to consider: Beethoven #2, Mendelssohn #1.

The Schumann is NOT a beginner's concerto. It is not "easy", some of the passages are "awkward" and it is very difficult to play well. It is a very mature work and demands a great deal of musicianship.
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Reply #7 on: March 08, 2004, 05:52:24 AM
Sharon, why in the world would you recommend The Mendelssohn g, over the schumann, the Schumann is soooo much easier than the Mendelssohn I completely disagree with the last comment that You made as it was my second concerto, I have worked on it and performed it many many times I know that it is not difficult at all

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Reply #8 on: March 08, 2004, 06:24:05 AM
And I'm amazed by your post.

The Mendelssohn lies very easily under the hands, the passage work in the finale sounds much more difficult than it is. There is almost no difficulty at all in the left hand.

And from a musical standpoint there is no comparison. Schumann is much more difficult, especially the last movement. I have heard two different concert pianists make some pretty bad memory slips in that last movement. I'm not sure why.

Has anyone else out there performed both of these concertos? I would love to get their take on this.
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Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 04:15:06 AM
I guess I'm just wierd then, cause having performed both works also multiple times, i found the Schumann Much easier, it gave me no trouble whatsoever, however the Mendelssohn gave me hell
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