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Topic: piece grading
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imbetter
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piece grading
on: May 05, 2007, 01:48:11 PM
who puts the grades on these pieces? personally don't think they're graded very well. for example: every single scriabin prelude is marked level 8+ but sonata no8 white mass is only level 7....
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soliloquy
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Re: piece grading
Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
lol
What is Vers la Flamme? 2?
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debussy symbolism
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Re: piece grading
Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 06:00:13 AM
Greetings.
I am also of the opinion that some of the pieces are graded unfairly, or graded somewhat erroneously. I think that it is just best not to mind the grade and just play the piece. I too want to know who decides the grades for the pieces here.
Best.
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nilsjohan
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Re: piece grading
Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 10:28:28 AM
The level markings are set by me and Henrik.
In the case of the Scriabin Sonata no 7 it was a misstyping which has now been corrected.
Regarding the levels in general I agree that many of them could indeed be graded differently but it often turns out to be a subjetive decision since many aspects has to be taken into consideration and weighted against each other.
Sometimes a piece might be technically and musically suitable for a certain grade but the massive length of it justifies a higher grade. The opposite might be true for complex but very short pieces.
Other doubtful cases are when the technical and interpretational/musical problems are far apart in terms of difficultness.
It is also likely that our references for grading the pieces has slightly changed over time so that pieces which were added two years ago when we started building the library might have been considered differently than the latest additions.
This is something we plan to look through and adjust later this year.
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soliloquy
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Re: piece grading
Reply #4 on: May 09, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: nilsjohan on May 09, 2007, 10:28:28 AM
difficultness.
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elevateme_returns
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Re: piece grading
Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 08:35:23 PM
lol
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Re: piece grading
Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: soliloquy on May 09, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
why ise da funny difficultness? appears 21.000 times in google it does
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G.W.K
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Re: piece grading
Reply #7 on: June 23, 2007, 10:11:45 AM
the grading system is odd...
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elevateme_returns
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Re: piece grading
Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: nilsjohan on May 09, 2007, 10:28:28 AM
The level markings are set by me and Henrik.
so are you both pianists? its hard to judge the difficulty of a piece if you havent played it. have you played all the pieces you've graded?
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pianochick93
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Re: piece grading
Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 10:41:49 AM
Even if one hasn't played a piece, it is relatively easy to put on a scale of 1-10, using a comparison technically to other pieces that you have played that are at a certain level, or to place it sometimes, by just looking at it.
I would have put Clair De Lune, by Debussy at about a grade 6 AMEB (Australian Music Examinations Board) level. And apparently it is.
Most of the grades of the pieces I've played on the list seem fairly accurate to me. Though some seem a little more difficult than I would have rated them at. Mayeb I just don't think myself playing at a grade 7 level, which is why I don't believe that some pieces are grade 7 level that I know.
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