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Offline nanabush

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Chopin 24th prelude;
on: May 16, 2007, 11:51:17 PM
I dunno, I was searching through the threads and never really found anything on this that really meant anything;

I just bought the book of preludes, it came in yesterday, I'm looking through this piece, and I can manage the techniques in this piece fine, except the runs upwards in the right hand.  I'm playing his G- ballade, and there aren't any runs, except the ones on the last page, that come close to the speed of the right hand runs in this prelude.  Like even when I just play them with the right hand, and don't play the left hand notes, it's extremely uneven, almost jumpy.

Do you just need mad fast scales?  lol is this one of those things that if I keep playing it over and over again, I'll get it fine;  it literally sounds like a glissando, and it pisses me off  ;) haha
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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #1 on: May 17, 2007, 12:04:11 AM
I haven't played this one, but from looking at it, it would seem they are all just basic scales, so a little TLC with your scale technique might help. :)
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Offline nanabush

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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007, 12:07:06 AM
haha the worst one is the A minor melodic scale on the second page... it's literally 3 octaves in one of the left hand motifs, so half a measure.  I never thought the scales were THAT fast.
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Offline jlh

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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 12:11:57 AM
so basically your best bet would be to flatten your fingers and thumb-over when required.
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Offline elevateme_returns

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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 09:04:03 PM
or just practise it slowly, its only a scale. thats what i did.
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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 09:12:49 PM
or just practise it slowly, its only a scale. thats what i did.

yep, that too!
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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 02:05:55 AM
so basically your best bet would be to flatten your fingers and thumb-over when required.

Whut!  In fast scales, I take the opposite approach: the fingers can play much faster "curling inside," and stroking the notes, rather than going flat and slapping them.  You have to play these scales as though you were petting a cat, that is the kind of touch required.  With this approach, you can feel the notes playing from the palm of the hand, rather than the fingers, and you can manage a big bunch at one time, and still have them evenly.

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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 05:17:36 PM
does anyone think kissin plays this the best? the prelude i mean
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Re: Chopin 24th prelude;
Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 07:25:18 PM
I like thinking of really fast scales as being in groups of notes rather than individual ones.  Eg: group of 3, group of 4, group of 3, etc...  These go together naturally with the fingerings.  It has you thinking faster too. 
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