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Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
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Topic: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
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presto agitato
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Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
on: May 21, 2007, 04:40:57 AM
1.- Which one do you like more. Why?
2.- In you opinion Which one is harder
3- Name pieces in the same mood and same length (around 3 minutes)
Thanks
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pooguy77
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Re: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 06:07:23 AM
Though I think both pieces are fantastic and very fun to play, I give a slight edge to Suggestion Diablolique, mainly cause there's so much character in it. I feel like I'm about to enter hell every time I see a good performance of it!
Both are standard, moderately difficult pieces (great choices for 20th century selection in audition or recitals). Each have their own tricks, so I think the difficult is dependent on the pianist . Hence, on a broader sense, I think both are similar in difficulty, but I had a harder time with the Barbaro when I was learning it at first.
Toccata Op. 1 by Jonathan LaMontaine (My ancient college audition piece!)
Dansa from Bachianas Brasileiras No. 4 by Villa-Lobos
Many other pieces by Bartok are similar in character like his Rondo from Piano Suite and a few of his Etudes.
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dnephi
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Re: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 01:09:06 PM
Good showpiece, the Diabolique. I am not a fan of the allegro barbaro.
2. The Suggestion is harder to play well, but I won't say anything about covering the notes.
3. Prokofiev toccata, Op. 11 (4)
Ginastera Sonata #1 Finale (2.5)
And, I'll recommend the Immortal Scriabin Op. 42 No. 5 (~3)
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maxy
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Re: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 09:17:19 PM
Suggestion diabolique is significantly harder unless you plan to break a speed record on Bartok by 30 seconds.
I like both pieces.
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thalberg
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Re: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 05:48:32 AM
I like Suggestion Diabolique better.
Neither is difficult.
Bartok "Out of Doors" mvt 1 "with pipes and drums"--short, not too hard, rugged character.
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jacobwynn
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Re: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)
Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 07:33:57 AM
Allegro barbaro is good fun to play. But I'm not all that accurate. Just like playing it for my own enjoyment.
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