Political party quiz!!!

[kevink]

TAKE THE POLITICAL PARTY QUIZ

1. Do you want to live in a place with more gun control?

2. Do you want to live in a place with fewer restrictions on firearms?

3. Do you want to live in a place where a woman can choose to have an abortion?

4. Do you want to live in a place where prenatal life is protected by law?

5. Do you want to live in a place where the government cannot say who can marry whom?

6. Do you want to live in a place where marriage is only between a man and a woman?

7. Do you want to live in a place where the the government ensures the poor have access to health care and welfare?

8. Do you want to live in a place where your income is not taxed?

9. Do you want to live in a place where smoking is illegal in public areas?

10. Do you want to live in a place where the government cannot tell you what drugs you can or can't use?




If you answered yes to any of these questions... surprise!! You're a Constitutional Conservative.

Before Republicans and Democrats, there was the Constitution.... and the Constitution said this:


Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified December 15, 1791.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

I'm supporting Ron Paul for President in 2008.


PLEASE NOTE:  I made up this quiz, and it is not affiliated with the Ron Paul campaign.  To learn more about Ron Paul, go here: www.ronpaul2008.com

[imbetter]

TAKE THE POLITICAL PARTY QUIZ

1. Do you want to live in a place with more gun control?

2. Do you want to live in a place with fewer restrictions on firearms?

3. Do you want to live in a place where a woman can choose to have an abortion?

4. Do you want to live in a place where prenatal life is protected by law?

5. Do you want to live in a place where the government cannot say who can marry whom?

6. Do you want to live in a place where marriage is only between a man and a woman?

7. Do you want to live in a place where the the government ensures the poor have access to health care and welfare?

8. Do you want to live in a place where your income is not taxed?

9. Do you want to live in a place where smoking is illegal in public areas?

10. Do you want to live in a place where the government cannot tell you what drugs you can or can't use?




If you answered yes to any of these questions... surprise!! You're a Constitutional Conservative.

Before Republicans and Democrats, there was the Constitution.... and the Constitution said this:


Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified December 15, 1791.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

I'm supporting Ron Paul for President in 2008.

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. no
6. yes
7. healthcare yes welfair no
8. yes
9. doesnt matter to me so ill say no
10. doesnt matter

[prometheus]

Yay, US is the only country with a non-religious constitution.


But, let's say no one is allowed to own a gun in the country I live and I think that some people should be able to practice their hobby at the fireing range. Does that mean I agree with Ron Paul?



Also, questions 3 and 4 seem to contradict each other. And questions 5 and 6 certainly do. So do questions 7 and 8, so do 9 and 10.



Ooh, wait. I am probably stupid and this is random spam. Uuh, your presidential election is way way far away. Until you can vote maybe try to find out how you can do your democratic duty during non-election time.

[mcgillcomposer]

Yay, US is the only country with a non-religious constitution.

If only it were treated as such. 

[wishful thinker]

Surely 3 and 4 are contradictory?

[prometheus]

If only it were treated as such. 

I see the irony.

[rach n bach]

Ron Paul's point isn't so much that he supports any one of these points, it's that he allows the states to make their own minds up... not relying on the federal government to do so.  This means that say I want to live with no gun laws, and somebody else wants to live with a whole slew of them.  Using Paul's ideas, with 50 states in the union, there should be at least 1 that fills what you're looking for... so it really doesn't matter if any two points are contradictory... that's actually the point.

[prometheus]

So he doesn't express himself on these issues?

[arensky]

So he doesn't express himself on these issues?

He believes in a strict and literal interpretation of the Constitution and that the document has been corrupted and that many laws and legal descisions passed by Congress and decided by the Supreme Court during the 20th Century violate and subvert it. As for what he thinks about the issues, I think that he puts his opinions and views second to the Constitution.

I agree with him about free speech, states rights, getting the *** out of Iraq and most of his deregulation ideas.  I admire him but his chances of being elected are marginal at best. But if he gets people thinking and questioning the motives and legitimacy of the trendy media/establishment approved candidates, then he's done a lot.

Here is his website....    https://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Here is what got people's attention....   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0

[arensky]

Ron Paul's point isn't so much that he supports any one of these points, it's that he allows the states to make their own minds up... not relying on the federal government to do so.

As it should be. 

  This means that say I want to live with no gun laws, and somebody else wants to live with a whole slew of them.  Using Paul's ideas, with 50 states in the union, there should be at least 1 that fills what you're looking for... so it really doesn't matter if any two points are contradictory... that's actually the point.

Freedom of choice. 

[prometheus]

Yeah, but it's kind of strange to say: "If you are pro-abortion, vote for me." and "If you oppose abortion, vote for me."

Same with those other points.

[rach n bach]

I know... that's why I don't like him

[arensky]

Yeah, but it's kind of strange to say: "If you are pro-abortion, vote for me." and "If you oppose abortion, vote for me."

Same with those other points.

That is the quiz, I don't know where it came from. I personally feel that the government should not be involved in a lot of those issues listed in the quiz, and that is Paul's point. And the question about wanting to live where public smoking is illegal, if one answers yes to that, one is going against the US Constitution. So the quiz is invalidated for me by that, as well as a few other questions.

Paul's ideas are not as simplistic as they seem, it requires an education, responsibility and consideration to live without the government telling an individual what to do. I'm not sure that many Americans are equipped for that, sadly, thanks to increased control and supervision by the federal government. Paul's campaign might be hijacked by yahoos, but perhaps they will gain political knowledge and open their eyes to what is and has been going on around them.
 
Once again, I'm not looking forward to whoever my head of state will be in 18 (?) months....  

[kevink]

Thanks Arensky and Rach for clarifying!!

Yes, the point of the quiz is to offer up contradictory questions and show how no matter what your answers, the overall answer is to respect the right of the states to make up their minds about these issues, rather than the Federal government. 

If the states' rights were respected in this way, as would be Ron Paul's wish (since he is the only candidate who is a strict Constitutionalist), we would all have greater agency in our choices regarding all the questions on the quiz.  As it is, the matter is being delt with at the federal level, and so NO one is happy--and the Supreme Court is largely responsible for many of the decisions.  Ironic, because the Supreme Court is supposed to deal with conflicts between the state and federal government--and all these maters should be solely the prerogative of the states!!

NOTICE!!!  The quiz originated from me--it is not the product of Ron Paul's campaign, but nevertheless, captures the essence of a Constitutionalist approach--which, if you read about Ron Paul, is his philosophy.

[kevink]

ALSO:

The quiz is flawed, because the Constitution protects the right to bear arms--you wouldn't be able to live anywhere in the USA where firearms are illegal under a strict Constitutionalist approach.

sorry...

[prometheus]

But the US is one country, right? Having totally different laws in diferent states will cause some problems.

And if you are going to do that then why bother with a federal government at all? Just split the US up in four different nation-states, or something similar.


This is very much the same as the issue of the EU.

[rach n bach]

It all boils down to wether you want a stronger federal government, or greater state rights.  In the begining, it was "these united states" now, it's more of "The United States."

[kevink]

But the US is one country, right? Having totally different laws in diferent states will cause some problems.

And if you are going to do that then why bother with a federal government at all? Just split the US up in four different nation-states, or something similar.


This is very much the same as the issue of the EU.

The answer to "why bother w/ a federal government at all?" is found in the Constitution.  Reading it with these kinds of questions in mind is very illuminating.  The founding fathers had very specific ideas about the purpose of a federal government, and the PURPOSE was to have totally different laws in different states (with certain rights protected, ie the first 10 amendments)...

[mattgreenecomposer]

Wow!  I didn't know we had so many political people on this website.  well... on one side we have the "Bash Bush at all costs even if it kills us crowd" and the other side we have "the weak, I'll please anybody if you let me stay in power crowd." --semi-Left and extreme Left.  What a choice!
The ship is sinking, thats why Im a musician, what can you do but play some Rachmaninoff these days.
Amen

[rc]

thats why Im a musician, what can you do but play some Rachmaninoff these days.
Amen

I take a bit of an interest in politics, many of my opinions aren't fully formed yet...  But at the end of the day I know music is true.  Except I've got practicing to do before playing some Rach

[jakev2.0]

Ron Paul has no chance.

[prometheus]

The answer to "why bother w/ a federal government at all?" is found in the Constitution. 

Sure, it's in the constitution. But that's not really an answer, is it.

[kevink]

Sure, it's in the constitution. But that's not really an answer, is it.

Article I Section 8, Powers of Congress:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

[prometheus]

I mean, you can evaluate what the federal government should do and what the state government should do. Sure, there's the constitution. But you can change it.

[arensky]

Ron Paul has no chance.

Your mom has no chance.