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Offline tirips213

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5 month old infant funeral
on: July 15, 2007, 12:06:13 AM
Hello peeps my name is Kenny and I could really use some advice on what to play
at a funeral for an infant.  I'm a church pianist and the standard hymns I play for
funerals don't seem to be a safe bet.  There was a Mozart Sonata that I was thinking
might be nice, any suggestions would be helpful.  Thank you

Offline bench warmer

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #1 on: July 15, 2007, 01:54:47 PM
Look at some of Chopin's Preludes & Nocturnes, the middle section of the Funeral March movement of his Sonata 2, Liszt's Consolations and some themes from Liszt's Funerailles.

You have a tough assignment with this one. Good Luck

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #2 on: July 15, 2007, 02:24:17 PM
Chopin preludes op. 28 no 4, 6 and 20. 6 is incredibly beautiful imo.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #3 on: July 15, 2007, 06:34:41 PM
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Offline rallestar

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #4 on: July 15, 2007, 07:43:07 PM
You're right - It's not. As if somehow the suffering a death causes should be any less because of a young age. Only makes it worse that a life was taken so young.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #5 on: July 15, 2007, 09:34:32 PM
check out Liszt's "la lugubre gondola". he wrote it around the time of Wagner's death. it was something to do with him having predicted or seen a vision of Wagner's death.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #6 on: July 15, 2007, 10:02:39 PM
mozart might actually be a good thing throughout.  do you realize half of mozart's children died as infants or babies.  at least that's what i thought i remembered.  life was much harder back then - and cycles of money/poverty/sickness affected people much more (possibly).  anyways - i would think mozart has some comforting qualities.  some hope.  five months is very young.  not sure what the parents believe - but i tend to think that zechariah 8 is very encouraging if you believe in a ressurrection of the dead (including children) to live out their physical lives in a peaceful setting.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
On such an occasion I can’t imagine that most people are in the frame of mind or have the concentration to be immersed in a whole sonata,  … maybe some shorter, simpler but beautiful melodies … I’m thinking of pieces with a lullaby quality; gentle Brahm’s waltzes, some of Mendelssohn’s SWW eg Op 19/6 Gondollied, a few variations from Mozart’s A Maj sonata or some of his beautiful andante movements, Grieg’s Nottorno… some of Schumann’s Kinderszenen … that sort of thing? Chopin’s Berceuse of course if you’re up to it but it’s so achingly beautiful that it would be almost unbearable to hear at a baby’s funeral…
How sad.
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 10:00:42 AM
Ravel's Pavane pour une infante défunte would be ideal.
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 02:34:29 PM
The Bach-Siloti Prelude is very touching. Played a bit slower than usual would have quite a powerful effect, although I'm not sure what effect one would want at such a horrific event.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 01:18:54 AM
The event is probably traumatic enough without dark gloomy pieces?!? I might be inclined to suggest the first piece from Schumanns kinderzenen...its calming but at the sametime quite reverencial...i see actually someone else has suggested this - the chopin preludes suggestion is also good.  The slow movement from Bach french suite no 5 is quite a good one too..for practical as well as musical reasons (good steady beat and in 2 sections)

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #11 on: July 22, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
Do the B minor Chopin Sonata... It's got that famous funeral march in it... Or just do the march. The sonata is a beezy by the way... Have fun. The Chopin C sharp minor nocturne (posthumous) was also supposed to be a funeral march if I remember correctly.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #12 on: July 22, 2007, 07:07:33 PM
I would suggest Canon...it is a nice tune and it is quite popular at funerals as well as weddings. That might sound a bit sick...but it is only a suggestion.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #13 on: July 22, 2007, 08:17:11 PM
What about Schuberts impromptu in Gb major? Op 90 no 3. It's has such a quiet, tranquil beauty.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #14 on: July 22, 2007, 08:45:09 PM
Ravel Sonatine 2nd movement


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Ravel Pavane pour un infante defunte  <---how did this not get mentioned earlier?

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 09:41:46 PM
Ummm ppl suggesting the most 'depressing' piece... that's probably not what people are going to want to listen to at an infant's funeral.  Pavane pour une infante defunte is a sad piece, but is very beautiful, and would work well!  Chopin preludes mentioned seem a bit grim... What about the A major prelude :P 

Also I'd agree with sections from Funerailles,
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #16 on: July 23, 2007, 11:26:24 AM
The two Liszt "Consolations" are lovely - they are contemplative with glimmers of hope. Personally, I would never think of playing the Chopin Funeral March movement unless it was a victorian affair with everyone dressed in black mourning garb!  :P
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #17 on: July 24, 2007, 05:31:57 PM
The two Liszt "Consolations" are lovely - they are contemplative with glimmers of hope. Personally, I would never think of playing the Chopin Funeral March movement unless it was a victorian affair with everyone dressed in black mourning garb!  :P

There are six consolations.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #18 on: July 24, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
In my haste I meant to say the two Consolations (#3 and #5) - I have an old dog-eared edition that has two of the six and are the ones I was referring to. Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #19 on: July 25, 2007, 05:10:01 AM
i'd go for the slow movement of mozart's c major sonata K.545. it's simple and beautiful and ends in a major key.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #20 on: July 25, 2007, 06:18:43 AM
So many suggestions; but, thankfully, this particular venue is a rarity--at least in my life.
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #21 on: July 25, 2007, 11:20:59 AM
yes nothing too dour - its sad enough you dont want everyone to feel suicidal.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #22 on: August 14, 2007, 10:36:31 PM
pies,
what kind of music do you like?
I didn't think too many people that felt that way could like music either.

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #23 on: August 15, 2007, 05:06:31 PM
Play the alkan funeral march... Hahaha... Jk... I personally would go with the bach-siloti prelude...

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #24 on: August 15, 2007, 05:15:25 PM
Ravel Sonatine 2nd movement


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Ravel Pavane pour un infante defunte  <---how did this not get mentioned earlier?

Those were the exact pieces I was going to suggest. XD

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #25 on: August 16, 2007, 12:36:17 PM
Teresa Carreno composed Elegie for her mother's funeral - I would suggest this piece.  It is a beautiful dedication for mother and daughter. There is a recording by Carmen Rodriguez.  Regards, Lani

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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #26 on: August 16, 2007, 01:28:52 PM
try chopin 10/5 or 10/8
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Re: 5 month old infant funeral
Reply #27 on: August 16, 2007, 10:55:41 PM
Have you considered asking close family of the child if they would like something specific...?
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