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Offline counterpoint

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I'm not talking of a special sort of beliefs, but about beliefs of all sorts. There are many things in our all day live that we believe in - just because we were told some "facts" by an other person. The person may be a friend, a teacher, a writer in a book etc.

So, from that moment on, we believe in what we were told.

It's a bit stupid, isn't it...?  ::)
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Offline mcgillcomposer

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Re: strong beliefs - how certain can we be about them?
Reply #1 on: July 22, 2007, 04:30:19 PM
I'm not talking of a special sort of beliefs, but about beliefs of all sorts. There are many things in our all day live that we believe in - just because we were told some "facts" by an other person. The person may be a friend, a teacher, a writer in a book etc.

So, from that moment on, we believe in what we were told.

It's a bit stupid, isn't it...?  ::)
Go read some David Hume, he has some interesting stuff to say on this subject.
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Offline cmg

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Re: strong beliefs - how certain can we be about them?
Reply #2 on: July 22, 2007, 04:50:48 PM

So, from that moment on, we believe in what we were told.

It's a bit stupid, isn't it...?  ::)

Yes, it is completely stupid.  The terms for that kind of "knowledge" is "conditioned throught" or "received intelligence."  Any informaton that we accept as true without proving it to ourselves as fact is "belief."  Such belief systems account for all the conflict in this world.

I offer as evidence the wars over religion (which are really at base about money) and the wars over patriotism (which are really at base about money).

All tyrants use belief systems to manipualte the masses.  Bush, for example, used patriostism and hatred against Islam to involve Americans into his Mideast holocausts, all for the sake of money -- you may substitute the word "oil" for money here.
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