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Offline invictious

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What do you think..
on: August 01, 2007, 09:53:41 AM
What do you think about during the recapitulation, the chromatic second theme of the first subject group starts in the relative major and
modulates through G minor?

What about the resolution of the suspended dissonance by means of an arpeggiation of the tonic triad towards the end of the exposition in the overture?
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Offline pianistimo

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Re: What do you think..
Reply #1 on: August 01, 2007, 04:17:57 PM
is there something we are missing here?  is this an addendum to another thread about a specific piece? 

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Re: What do you think..
Reply #2 on: August 01, 2007, 04:50:20 PM
What do you think about during the recapitulation, the chromatic second theme of the first subject group starts in the relative major and
modulates through G minor?

What about the resolution of the suspended dissonance by means of an arpeggiation of the tonic triad towards the end of the exposition in the overture?

To me it sounds perfectly like "thoughts a la Pianistimo"  :o

Sorry Susan, I could not resist... am I again on a black list?  :-[

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Re: What do you think..
Reply #3 on: August 01, 2007, 04:52:20 PM
I think it's brilliant.
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Re: What do you think..
Reply #4 on: August 01, 2007, 06:04:50 PM
are you talking about page 9 of the spanish rhapsody (although page 8 takes a motive from the mid-section of page 3 - measure 17 of andante moderato - middle voice). where it looks like (haven't analyzed the entire thing) there is a b minor going to the relative key of D major?  is there a modulation after that to g minor?  and what do i think about there?  i don't know - i haven't played it.  ask marik.  maybe he has more of an imagination than i give him credit for.  considering how he played it - something must have worked.  perhaps he puts metal paper clips on his ears and doesn't take them off until the end of the piece.  i don't think a rhapsody has a real 'recap' though does it?   

the cadenza is an overture.  i see.  that's a very suggestive question.  i suggest you ask marik.

perhaps this is a little like mozart.  pulling on someone's heartstrings at the beginning - only to become full of oneself at the end.  liszt was the eternal optomist about himself.  i doubt he would ever listen to a woman tell him that 1/2 of it was gas.

although i really really like this piece.  it's very seductive and suggestive - in that sense.  but the problem is - can you keep up with your feelings to the end.  i think i would have to go with the 'concentrate on the problems at hand' approach and hope that people thought i was relaxed.  perhaps once or twice in the piece i would dwell upon some kind of spanish dancer.  i'd like to see some twisting and turning - and then, maybe a bull run or ride- then - a chicken fight.  ending with some sort of twisted plot where a long saber comes out and they start fencing.  somebody gets stabbed at the end.  it's over.  the lovers escape by running through a crowd and knock over several fruit stands.

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Re: What do you think..
Reply #5 on: August 01, 2007, 08:33:31 PM
What do you think about during the recapitulation, the chromatic second theme of the first subject group starts in the relative major and
modulates through G minor?

What about the resolution of the suspended dissonance by means of an arpeggiation of the tonic triad towards the end of the exposition in the overture?

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