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liszt's spanish rhapsody
on: August 01, 2007, 02:28:38 PM
i may have gotten in over my head on this one - but i will ask in any case for any sort of help that is available.  (marik - it's ok if you say somethign!)  are there any sites that explain the techniques needed here and how to smoothly transition from so many different movements.

now, even the first chord has some kind of approach.  what kind of approach?  lean forward and put your entire body weight into it?  or lean back and break your forearms?  i feel like leaning forward, fingers touching the chord before i play it, and then sort of a jab in. 

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #1 on: August 01, 2007, 02:35:29 PM
on the tremolos in the lh - i'm using 31  on the first one and 541 on the second.  is that good? 

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #2 on: August 01, 2007, 02:50:52 PM
also, i've divided the run into lh rh lh  pattern.  basically the lh would be 54321 on (E#F#G#B#D#), rh 1235 (F#G#B#D#), lh 43212 (F#G#B#D#F#).

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #3 on: August 01, 2007, 03:07:41 PM
someone.  anyone.  stop me wherever you like and on whatever measure.  i am now on the rh chords (beats 2,3 and 1,2 of measures 1,2).  as i see it, the rh would be (on beat 2) 421, 521 - staccato ending  and then marcato on 521 going to 421.  is this sounding ok so far?

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #4 on: August 01, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
give up.
"My advice to young musicians: Quit music! There is no choice. It has to be a calling, and even if it is and you think there's a choice, there is no choice"-Vladimir Feltsman

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #5 on: August 01, 2007, 03:23:44 PM
hey, i'm about ready to post the first page.  i'm not giving up yet.  wait until the dangerously ridiculously finger twistingly mind bendlingly difficult pages to come.

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #6 on: August 01, 2007, 03:40:02 PM
the cadenza shouldnt give u too much trouble
"My advice to young musicians: Quit music! There is no choice. It has to be a calling, and even if it is and you think there's a choice, there is no choice"-Vladimir Feltsman

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #7 on: August 01, 2007, 04:08:06 PM
ok.  i'm at the bottom of the page and looking at the run in the cadenza on the last line starting with the top note of the arpeggio when it goes downward.  rh 5421 lh1242 rh 5421 lh1242 rh 5421 lh 1242 rh 5421 lh 1245 rh last note staccato 3.

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #8 on: August 01, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
that's the thing.  liszt cadenzas always fit into the hands.  he didn't have smaller hands than chopin did he.  i find it easy so far.   of course, crescendoing on the 'twaa twaa' parts (high rh and lh parts in the cadenza) is more difficult than i thought.  this is why music critics should be forced to play the music they critique.

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #9 on: August 01, 2007, 04:25:45 PM
of course, crescendoing on the 'twaa twaa' parts (high rh and lh parts in the cadenza) is more difficult than i thought.  this is why music critics should be forced to play the music they critique.

I have a tour in October, where I am going to play this Rhapsody among other things, and will do those 'twaa twaa' exactly the way you ask... just for you... anything... as a reward for all those sufferings I caused you... you just tell... or even hint   :-*

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Re: liszt's spanish rhapsody
Reply #10 on: August 01, 2007, 04:43:38 PM
i am deeply touched.  truly!  i wish i could hear it.  you're not playing in pennsylvania are you?
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