whats your opinion

[imbetter]

dnephi told me this program is bad and i was kinda puzzled. whats your opinion

beethoven sonatas op14
agosti stravinsky firebird
intermission
bach partita 6
liszt spanish rhapsody

[mike_lang]

Spicy.  I like it.

[pianistimo]

i see a pattern here.  sokolov did two opus 14's and then opus 28 (14+14).  very mathmatical.  how about:

bach partita 6
beethoven sonata opus 14 #2
prokofiev sonata #7
 
intermission

liszt spanish rhapsody
agosti stravinsky firebird
something of ligeti - passacaglia for cembalo?  (arr?)

couperin encore

(*note.  i am not into the firebird myself.  just ideas for you.  LOVE the spanish rhapsody).  ligeti is a composer i must learn about as i don't know much of his works.  therefore, i didn't pick a piece.

[imbetter]

sounds good pianistimo. why that particular pattern? i'm trying to understand what people mean with these patterns.

[soliloquy]

It's random and static.  Two pieces of equal length, twice.  It looks more like rep you would use in a competition instead of a concert.  Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Semi-Modern.

[pianistimo]

everyone has a different idea, i suppose, as to what is 'appropriate' - or 'classic.'  of course, you are being somewhat avante garde by putting them out of order in terms of composer's lives.  i only put mine mildly out of order (the prokofiev.  but it was before intermission).  i am really just 'winging it.'  as i see it - the true way to figure out a program is to experiment with many pieces in many orders.

take them and actually listen to the program in that order.  if something seems not quite right - it could be due to too sudden change or not enough change of one style to another.  i tend to like the slightly gradual change of style (say from bach to beethoven).  now, beethoven to prokofiev might be a style change based on rhythm instead of form (or even a bit of form and rhythm connection.  after all- it is a sonata).

the ligeti - well, i'm a complete baby about him - but i see that stravinsky was chosen and ligeti seems to follow the stravinsky idea in his own way doesn't he?  clean lines?

ending with a passacagli is bringing a cycle idea into the thing (from baroque to modern composition with baroque form).  and the couperin finish is just saying - here - take a bit of a whistle with you. 

[imbetter]

thanks pianistimo and soliloquy

[pianistimo]

i feel as though i am also in a dark room sometimes.  i cheat occasionally and just look at concert pianists programs.  sokolov had a program with the prokofiev and couperin in it (also the beethoven opus 14#2).

i came up with the ligeti passacaglia.

[imbetter]

ive added a pole

[pianistimo]

ok what did you pick of chopin's?  i hope it's not an etude.  i'm going to bite all my fingers off on this program.  it has to be a scherzo.  and it should be right before the liszt.  knock off the ligti.  ok.

my programming theme for the second half would be dance numbers.  to me, the scherzo typifies a sort of wild dance - just as the rhapsody and firebird (ballet) suite.  or am i completely off.  does a scherzo mean wild dance or is it something else?

[forester]

Use a music dictionary or google if you don't know what Scherzo means.  G** save us, if this is the level of intellectual rigour or initiative you apply to your piano playing.

[imbetter]

hows this for an idea:

bach partita no.3
beethoven l'adieu
prokofiev 7th
intermission
schumann waldscenen
ligeti etudes book I

[pianistimo]

scherzo = a lively movement in 3/4 - often replacing the minuet.  another definition of a scherzo is 'a joke.'

hey - i'm not far off on the 'wild dance.'  i've heard some chopin scherzo's and they sounded like wild dances.

what's your definition mr. forester?

imbetter - i'm still perplexed about your method.  can you explain why you put the schumann waldscenen after the prokofiev.  to me, i'd want to put it before the intermission and end with the romantic period.  but, perhaps this is my classical side wanting things in order. 

what happened to the spanish rhapsody?