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xyz2006tor

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This piece was on the list for the local music festival for high school students. My teacher was surprised and said that NOBODY is actually going to learn/play it, except maybe me (perhaps he thinks that I'm the only one who is crazy enough to try it?

). So, according to him, I should "play with it."

After "playing" with it, I want to actually do something productive, i.e. learn it.

So, my question is two fold:

1. Should this piece be learned slowly and then gradually speeded up, or will that just lead to a speed wall?

2. Is there a hand motion/position that is necessary for playing this piece quickly?

If you have any experiences with this piece, I would really appreciate that!

Thank you!

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jinfiesto

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 04:22:57 AM

I assume you're talking about the chopin etude. Hmmm... They say this is one of the harder etudes. I didn't think it was so bad. Make sure you know the fingering for the chromatic scales... I would practice the scale part in the right hand separately from the chords and add those in later.. The left hand isn't bad at all.

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opus10no2

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 12:17:08 PM

Work on the RH in many ways.

AFAP, slow and accented, with heavy legato melody and detached light staccato lower notes, with heavy legato lower notes and detached light staccato melody.

Work on your ability to play the chromatic line and the lower notes in different ways, and incorporate all of them in a final performance.

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xyz2006tor

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 02:48:33 PM

Thanks!

Are there any wrist motions that I should be careful of? i.e. should it go up and down or side to side, etc.?

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franzliszt2

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 04:58:40 PM

Never play it fast until you can.

Keep wrists low!!! People raise the wrist all the time, and Ive noticed these people cannot play it.

Remembe the 4th finger cannot actually move independently, so don't try to get it to move. Use movements. Only you can discover them, they are very subtle.

Dotted rhythms work for the early stages of work, btu stop after it gets fast or you'll start to bump.

Keep an eye on the position changes, and decide what is the most efficient way to get to each chord.

Practice 2 octave chromatic scales using 45...54....34......43 so 2 finger scales. It's funny, and hard, but keep perfect legato.

Buy the alfred cortot edition he's helpfull for this etude.

Practice Piscna etudes! Those are great for 45 strength, But be carefull with them, they can hurt a lot very easily if overplayed.

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amelialw

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 05:09:37 PM

no,don't get that alfred edition. Get the Schirdmer's edition

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soliloquy

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 05:48:37 PM

This belongs in the student section.

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leonidas

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 09:59:05 PM

Quote from: soliloquy on August 19, 2007, 05:48:37 PM

This belongs in the student section.

Your post? and the rest of them?

Yes, I'd agree.

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xyz2006tor

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Re: Another 10/2 thread :)

Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 02:18:56 AM

Thanks franzliszt2! That was very helpful. I'm going to try those exercises.

I have the Cortot edition, but it was kind of disturbing to me that he didn't address anything related to wrist motion/position, so I asked here. I'm very grateful that you addressed that.

ameliaw: I think he meant the Salabert Edition edited by Alfred Cortot, not the Alfred Edition.

soliloquy:

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