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Chopin: Etude Op. 10 No. 2 in A Minor

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Frédéric Chopin - Etudes :
Etude, Op. 10 No. 2
Etude Op. 10 No. 2  in A Minor by Chopin piano sheet music
Key: A Minor Published: 1832
Level: 8+ Period: Early Romantic
piano sheet music Piano score: PS Urtext (576 kB)
piano sheet music Piano score: Scholtz edition (944 kB)


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xx Chopin etude op. 10 no. 2
May 26, 2003, 10:31:23 PM by etudefan

Anyone have any tips on practice Chopin Etude op 10. no. 2?   I have hard time gettin through it.   It wears me out!

Any helpful practice tips will be grateful.


xx Chopin op.10 no.2.
December 24, 2003, 05:19:19 PM by Jemmers

I'm learning this piece (very slowly, i might add..)
However, right now, something hurts really bad. I'm hoping it's a muscle (thereby indicating training up weak fingers). But i'm afraid it's a tendon or some other thing that's not supposed to hurt.

Anyone else experienced any pains caused by contortion of the hand while attempting this piece?


xx Chopin Etude Op 10-2
January 30, 2004, 12:10:13 AM by Airbum88

How hard is this piece?  I would like to know before I decide to whether practice this piece or not.

I can already play Raindrop Prelude.

Thanks


xx Chopin etude 10-2
August 17, 2005, 08:57:57 AM by thierry13

mmm i just heard someone mention it has a SO HARD piece, but heard several people think it is an easier etude, so well what is it for you?


xx Chopin etude op 10 nr 2
November 17, 2005, 03:56:08 PM by lisztener

Hi !  I know that Chopin's etudes are very difficult. But is there any chance that I can start working on op 10 nr 2?  It sounds very difficult, but the notes seem easy (no big gaps etc.) The trickiest part is presumably the speed. I've played Chopins waltz in C sharp minor, his nocturnes op 9 nr 1 and 2, and Debussys Clair de lune. Do you think it's reasonably of me to attempt to learn this etude? (Even though it it very fast)
Take care! /lisztener


xx chopin 10/2
December 13, 2005, 01:23:52 AM by chromatickler

thought it would be funny to make a video of this. work in progress, obviously

http://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3K72REB27QAED3RUEOTZHOOE8S


xx chopin etude 10/2
December 14, 2005, 11:16:20 AM by jamie_liszt

Hey

I am choosing some Chopin etudes that will improve my technique and finger independence, i have decided this would help my weak 4th and 5th fingers, and i will also take on 25/6 coz i got weak thirds!   I have looked over these etudes, listened to them and decided the next etude I will play is Chopin's 10/2 Etude, Before I start learning this piece I have a couple of questions.

 How should you begin to learn this, should you work on the chromatic right hand parts without the chord accompaniment or learn it slowly together from the beginning and gradually speed it up.

 I got the Cortot edition from another thread, is Cortots Exercises usefull for this piece, also i don't like the Cortot finguring for this piece, its a bit confusing! is it easier though ?

any other helpful tips that will make this easier.


xx Middle voice in Chopin op.10/2?
January 07, 2007, 03:14:11 PM by dabbler

The 1/16 chords played by the right hand at the beginning of every fourth are notated as separate voices in the score (i.e. chromatic line = stem up, chords = stem down). This seems to indicate that they should be played in a way that this voice is distinguishable from the bass chords (l.h.) and the chromatic line -- otherwise the stems would be connected to one of those lines. However, I've just listened again to a hand full of op.10/2 recordings (Pollini, Gavriolov, Berezovsky,...), and in none of those can I hear a distinct middle line. Also in Cortot's comments on the etude (in his edition at Salabert) I cannot find any remarks. So probably my question is completely stupid....

But still, to me, it seems a bit paradoxical that this line is not played more markedly. If it's not played, the piece sounds a bit like Kors-Rach's bumble bee, only that it's much more awkward to play than the latter, and you never get it to a comparable speed. In a way I would have guessed that in a concert etude, any additional difficulty should be justified musically. In other words, it would make no sense to "trap" the right hand by some additional chords, if these chords are not clearly audible. That's why I still wonder if these chords should not be played as a kind of middle voice.

On the other hand, the "melody" you get from these chords is not really cantabile, so it could even hurt the piece to bring it out too loudly. Still, I think it's a funny theme that you get if you play the upper notes from the r.h. chords (exluding the chromatic line) in the first four bars. However, from measure 19 on, it sounds more like some small children's tune that has just discovered singing...

So, I'd be very interested to hear your opinions:
* do you think Chopin wanted a middle voice, or is it just a notational idiosyncracy?
* if it's just an idiosyncracy, why didn't he write the chords connected to either the r.h. chromatic line, or to the bass?
* but if you also :
- would you play it throughout the piece, or not in measures 19ff?
- why don't the "famous" pianists play it then? Is it a tribute to their sheer speed that the voice is lost?
- have any of you recorded their own versions? Or do you know any commercial recordings with middle voice? I'd be interested in hearing any those.

Any comments appreciated... :-)
-Tobias


xx chopin etude op 10 #2
February 14, 2007, 03:47:35 AM by pianistimo

ok.  here's my first take.  this isn't friday yet.  and, one problem i have is that i don't have it memorized - so on the page turns - i have to turn the page.  i looked around to see if i had copies of it - and i don't. well, anyways - i can play fast when i want to.


xx Another 10/2 thread :)
August 17, 2007, 03:09:22 AM by xyz2006tor

This piece was on the list for the local music festival for high school students. My teacher was surprised and said that NOBODY is actually going to learn/play it, except maybe me (perhaps he thinks that I'm the only one who is crazy enough to try it?  Shocked). So, according to him, I should "play with it."

After "playing" with it, I want to actually do something productive, i.e. learn it.

So, my question is two fold:

1. Should this piece be learned slowly and then gradually speeded up, or will that just lead to a speed wall?

2. Is there a hand motion/position that is necessary for playing this piece quickly?

If you have any experiences with this piece, I would really appreciate that!

Thank you!


xx chopin a minor etude, op 10 no 2 (live)
September 18, 2007, 02:12:40 AM by le_poete_mourant

This is from a recital I gave two weeks ago.  Steinway concert D, at Nazareth College.  Chopin's A minor etude, Op. 10 No. 2.  Tell me what you think!  Smiley


exclamation Chopin: Etudes Op. 10 No. 1, 2, 4 & Ballade No. 2 in F major, Op 38 - LIVE
June 15, 2008, 07:48:29 PM by le_poete_mourant

Hey everybody -- these are a few Chopin recordings from my high school senior recital a couple weeks ago. 

Chopin Etudes Op. 10
No. 1 in C major
No. 2 in A minor
No. 4 in C# minor

Chopin: Ballade No. 2 in F major, Op. 38

Live & unedited - Kilbourn Hall, Rochester NY.  June 1 2008. 


xx Chopin Etude 10-2 Fingering problems
March 03, 2011, 02:13:46 PM by wilmerguido

I just started this piece a few days ago, and I'm using the urtext version of this site. So... are you supposed to follow the fingerings exactly although it feels awkward, or are you allowed to make changes so it feels less awkward playing it? I'm in the midst of reading the 2nd page. I didn't find the 1st page that complicated although i have a bit of problem with bars 6-7 where 6 ends with the fingerings 5-4, and bar 7 starts with the finger 5 again so... i'm forced to cut the legato... I have the option to change it to finger 3, but I'm not really sure if this is wise. There are similar problems all through out the piece where you're forced to cut the legato by playing a 5 after a 4... are you guys getting what i mean? Also... i have a problem with bars 21-22. The last four notes of bar 21 uses the fingering: 5-3-5-4 then  bar 22 starts with a 3-2 chord... I plan to change it to 5-2-3-1, then start the 22nd bar with the 3-2 chord. By doing thing, i'd have to put my 3rd and 2nd finger over my thumb. I find this more convenient than using 5-3-5-4 then 3-2. Should I change it? or should i just practice the more awkward fingering?


xx Chopin Etude 10-2 concern
March 25, 2011, 05:02:03 PM by wilmerguido

Am I deaf/blind to actually think that SOME great pianists omit SOME of the middle notes in this etude to play it up to speed?

In Lisitsa's recording: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx02vWfSGiU
I can't see her index finger (finger 2) playing any notes in some, if not most parts. I can only hear/see the thumb + the chromatic line

Now, this one's quite obvious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eqCRr-mI-0

I also can't quite hear the inner notes in this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWfnPjfKExQ

Now, I'm learning this etude as of the moment, and the inner notes are killing me Sad


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