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Topic: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1  (Read 3957 times)

Offline zheer

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Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
on: August 18, 2007, 05:34:26 PM

  Here is a fairly cool interpretation.What are your thoughts.

   
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 06:04:36 PM
I like it--accurate, effective dynamic range for an etude, steady tempo at a rate that keeps it from begin choppy, base octaves are powerful but not banged and overemphasized--and it's played a Bosie ;D
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 06:25:09 PM
  Well then you will love her interpretation of the etude in thirds, so effortless .

   
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 09:19:33 PM
Thanks for sharing those. The ease with which she plays the 3rds at that speed is astonishing! Now I get to return to my practicing and klunk away at about 2/3rd her speed and convince myself I'm doing pretty well. >:(
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 10:26:32 PM
*Shrugz*

Walter Ramsey


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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 03:52:17 AM
Wow...I wish she wasn't wearing that dress either.





*slaps self*




Yes, that's thirds is just..it's so natural, she makes it look so easy..

That op.10 no.1 too..wow...her hand is just..so free and natural..makes it look amazingly easy too..

Just imagine what she can do with those hands..






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Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 08:48:56 AM



Yes, that's thirds is just..it's so natural, she makes it look so easy..



  True, it's music .
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
To be honest I don't like her op 10 no 1 - it lacks passion, fire

Her playing is much more fit for the thirds (op 25 no 6), because it's a more elegant piece

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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 12:24:14 PM
When I saw the video of her thirds-etude a few months ago (the one in which she wears a red dress not the green one), I was simply speechless. I had to watch it 3 times to believe it. To my knowledge, no other hands "fly" over this piece with such effortless elegance.

For some reason (maybe memories of pictures) her narrow hands with the long fingers remind me of Liszt's hands.
 
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #9 on: August 19, 2007, 12:51:49 PM
For some reason (maybe memories of pictures) her narrow hands with the long fingers remind me of Liszt's hands.
 

   Nothing manly about those hands.
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #10 on: August 19, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
 Dear fellows:
 I don't remember who did present me the mighty girl, but here's the link for her homepage:
 https://www.valentinalisitsa.com/
 There are tons of video and audio, as well as some info. Enjoy!
 Best wishes!
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 01:25:42 PM
  We cant all be genius.
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
she must be really bright - because that etude is difficult to memorize let alone not let a finger slip in the entire thing.  she's really solid.  and elegant.  it's exactly the way i would want to play this if i could learn the entire thing from memory.  not too bashing. 

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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 01:52:24 PM
- because that etude is difficult to memorize let alone not let a finger slip in the entire thing. 

  You do realize, that a lot of these pianists memorize and perform all 24 Etudes by Chopin.
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #14 on: August 19, 2007, 02:07:49 PM
it's exactly the way i would want to play this if i could learn the entire thing from memory.  not too bashing. 

I agree, she has indeed the dynamics right. Looking at the score, one realizes that 2/3 of this etude has range going from mp to f. Considering that Chopin tended to play softly due to a personal preference and the pianos of the time -- today this range would easily translate into a p-to-mf range. It is only in the very last part of the etude that Chopin writes a few ff.

And yet, countless pianists hammer this piece down on metallic sounding Steinways (or worse) as if it was written ff from A to Z. Not only wrong but also bad for the hand.
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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #15 on: August 21, 2007, 12:29:05 PM
Holy hell are they actually thirds huh huh huh huh *cries* :'(
I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes! Yeah I think the op10 1 etude looks easy but I reckon there really needs to be more dynamic contrast

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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 06:59:19 PM
*Shrugz*

Walter Ramsey




I totally agree, Walter. 

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Re: Those ov you who love chopins op 10 . 1
Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 07:26:47 PM
I totally agree, Walter. 



I'm with both of you.  What's the big fuss?  That op.10/1 sounds as if she phoned it in. 
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