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Offline penelope

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Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
« on: April 01, 2004, 12:25:12 AM »
Hi eveybody,
Last month I send a message that I am looking for an upright. I almost narrowed my search between Yamaha P 121 T and Zimmermann Z1 125. I liked both. everybody bought and advices Yamaha. Yamaha is a proven brand but I also liked Zimmermann. What do you know about Zimmerman??
Thanks..
Penelope

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Re: Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
«Reply #1 on: April 01, 2004, 03:01:18 AM »
Penelope,Zimmermann is a brand name used by Bechstein for their second line piano. See http://www.bechstein.de/engl/EInstrumente/EInstrugo.html and click on "Zimmermann." I have never seen a Zimmermann, and the Yamaha P121NT you referred to does not look like Yamaha's top line upright either (that would be the SU- and U- series). Go pick up Larry Fine's "The Piano Book" and see if there might be more info with regards to these two pianos. There is a lot of useful advise on buying a piano as well in that book. Good luck with your piano search.

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Re: Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
«Reply #2 on: April 08, 2004, 06:40:47 PM »
Hi penelope,
I just compared the Yamaha P121 NT with the Zimmermann, but decided for the Yamaha because it sounds more brillant.
Andreas

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Re: Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
«Reply #3 on: April 13, 2004, 11:24:24 AM »

Thank Andreas,
I'll take into account your advice ;)

Penelope

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Re: Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
«Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 08:04:53 PM »
Didn't you mention you were planning to "trade-up" to a grand in a few years?  If that is realistic for you, I'd recommend looking at a used instrument.  Have a piano technician check on its condition before you buy.  

The reason I recommend this is the depreciation curve.  If you are not planning to keep the piano long-term, buying new and then replacing it will make you take a bigger hit from depreciation.  Buying a recent model that is already used will give you a lower initial price.  When you sell in the future, the difference in buy & sell prices should be much lower if you buy used now.

With that plan in mind, I'd also recommend that you stay with only the most widely known brands (like Yamaha, Kawai, etc.) as these are more easily sold.

I would give you far different advice if you planned to keep this instrument for the long-term.
Wynne

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Re: Zimmermann vs. Yamaha
«Reply #5 on: April 27, 2004, 11:27:16 AM »
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Didn't you mention you were planning to "trade-up" to a grand in a few years?  If that is realistic for you, I'd recommend looking at a used instrument.  Have a piano technician check on its condition before you buy.  

The reason I recommend this is the depreciation curve.  If you are not planning to keep the piano long-term, buying new and then replacing it will make you take a bigger hit from depreciation.  Buying a recent model that is already used will give you a lower initial price.  When you sell in the future, the difference in buy & sell prices should be much lower if you buy used now.

With that plan in mind, I'd also recommend that you stay with only the most widely known brands (like Yamaha, Kawai, etc.) as these are more easily sold.

I would give you far different advice if you planned to keep this instrument for the long-term.


I really want to have a grand piano in a few years. Now, I couldn't buy grand due to the size of my room. In a few years I am planning to move another home, and then I will be able to have a new grand.  
Yes, you are right dear WynnBear getting an used one would be better solution :-/