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Offline thalberg

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We still need number 39!!
on: October 07, 2007, 02:05:50 AM
Someone must be able to do number 39!  Come on, I know someone here can do it!

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #1 on: October 07, 2007, 03:40:30 AM
I got to 36 without too much problem and with a fairly high degree of understanding of my answer ... I have to say what I think of 36 is that you allways have a perpetual movement of the cubes and with 3 "layers" and the darker, the more cubes are there at the same time so you'd have to calculte the movement of those cubes that way ... i think. I am too tired to try to understand the other last ones ... maybe tomorrow lol.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #2 on: October 07, 2007, 04:01:46 AM
I did not get 36 or 39- i got every other question correct though.  (I know because I got a 135 out of 140 indicating two incorrect answers, and I did not even answer for 36/39 so I would know.)  Anyway, I already forget what the question on 39 was, but I have done questions like 36 before on other IQ tests and will get back to you on it.  Will also take another look at 39; only had like 3 minutes left and barely even looked at 39, so it might be easier than I thought at first glance.


No. 37 is actually fairly easy- there are two dots and they move across to the right, and when they hit the edge they move down one column and continue.  Whenever they run into one of the black squares they are covered up (i assume you caught onto the checkerboard pattern to the black squares, no?), and once they move into another white square after having been concealed by a black one their color (white/black) oscillates each time.  The answer is H.


No. 38 is also not so tough; it is just the "X" in the center square that is tricky.  This just indicates a right (90 degree) angle.  Otherwise it is asking you to stretch the object; for instance the first one you stretch it up.  The third one you stretch at a 90 degree angle, therefor pulling it into a rhombus.  The coloration is static.  The answer is F.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #3 on: October 07, 2007, 04:35:32 AM
I believe it is E for 39.

The symbols change slightly in position and there is a rotation of some sort.

I didn't go through and get it exactly, but I saw which on fits best.

I got 4 wrong, so I can't verify.

Someone try and see what they get.

You could always guess and check.



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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #4 on: October 07, 2007, 04:45:43 AM
I guessed to most of them above 30 I think. I hate the kind of questions that were used in the test. They were used as an entrance exam to my high school as well.
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Offline thalberg

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #5 on: October 07, 2007, 05:37:37 AM
I did not get 36 or 39- i got every other question correct though.  (I know because I got a 135 out of 140 indicating two incorrect answers, and I did not even answer for 36/39 so I would know.)  Anyway, I already forget what the question on 39 was, but I have done questions like 36 before on other IQ tests and will get back to you on it.  Will also take another look at 39; only had like 3 minutes left and barely even looked at 39, so it might be easier than I thought at first glance.


No. 37 is actually fairly easy- there are two dots and they move across to the right, and when they hit the edge they move down one column and continue.  Whenever they run into one of the black squares they are covered up (i assume you caught onto the checkerboard pattern to the black squares, no?), and once they move into another white square after having been concealed by a black one their color (white/black) oscillates each time.  The answer is H.


No. 38 is also not so tough; it is just the "X" in the center square that is tricky.  This just indicates a right (90 degree) angle.  Otherwise it is asking you to stretch the object; for instance the first one you stretch it up.  The third one you stretch at a 90 degree angle, therefor pulling it into a rhombus.  The coloration is static.  The answer is F.

Thank you soliloquy!  Your answers to 37 and 38 sound great.

I believe I have gotten 36--I spent quite a lot of time on it.

In answering every question except number 39, "I" now have a score of 143 (with your help  :D)

Since 143 is the score with one question omitted (assuming I got 1-38 right) it seems you may have gotten another question or two wrong.  I've taken the test like 5 times and answers that I thought were right really were not.  We can go over them all sometime maybe and compare.  I still may have some wrong.

For question 36--after spending forever on it, I came to two conclusions. 

1.  The bottom of the image is down, left, and right in every row.  So the answer must have the bottom of the image pointing right,  because that's the one that's missing in the last row.

2.  The pattern is in the total number of squares for each color in each row.  Dark squares number 5 in the first row, 6 in the second row, and then must number 7 in the third row.  Medium squares number 7 in the first row, 5 in the second row, and then must number 6 in the third row.  Light squares number 6 in the first row, 7 in the second row, and then must number 5 in the third row.

So the answer according to this would be F.

By answering all the questions the same as before, but adding "F" for number 36, my score went up by 3 points.  So I guess that means "F" is correct.

If anyone has a better or clearer way to do this, I'm all ears!  It's a baffler.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #6 on: October 07, 2007, 05:41:29 AM
I believe it is E for 39.

The symbols change slightly in position and there is a rotation of some sort.

I didn't go through and get it exactly, but I saw which on fits best.

I got 4 wrong, so I can't verify.

Someone try and see what they get.

You could always guess and check.





I tried E and my score stayed at 143.   :-\ 

Offline thalberg

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #7 on: October 07, 2007, 05:59:46 AM
...okay, so number 39 is the one we want to get now.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #8 on: October 07, 2007, 09:01:06 AM
to me this all about pattern recognition and has no basis in reality excepting to recognize patterns.  how about some written questions?  iq is about analyzing real information.  not triangles and lines and squares.  for instance, you can be adept at unlocking codes and geeky that way - but can you make a right moral decision?  there are many forms of iq.

as i understood question 36 - there was one opposite missing in an exact shading of dark, medium, and light.

number 37 was about matching open dots with dots colored in and where you think placement should be on them.

number 38, to me, was about shading the left top triangle black and making it a compilation.

that last one counts for the other half of the test - doesn't it?  i mean all the questions seems straight forward until the last one.  most of the points on this iq test are based upon it - it seems. 

i'm guessing that it's based upon a movement of three items out of place, to four, to five, to six.  and remembering where they were.  this is a guess.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #9 on: October 07, 2007, 10:19:41 AM
Well done pianistimo.

All you gotta do is get number 1 right now.
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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #10 on: October 07, 2007, 10:28:31 AM
what was your score, thal?  mine was 101.  i'm sure i got the first question right.  i'm also sure i got the last question wrong.  it was a complete guess and i don't feel good about those unless there is an element of 'it feels right.'  there was no preference of my choice of any of the answers.  therefore - either the question was meaningless and random and meant to make you feel quite foolish at the end - or there was 100x harder question than all the others at the very end.

and don't take the test 5x.  i only took it twice.  the first time i got 100.  the second time 101.

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #11 on: October 07, 2007, 11:35:09 AM

I took this test a while back. I think my score was 134.

To be honest though, I think tests like this are seriously flawed. I mean, they say you cant practice for them, but Im certain if you did one of these everyday you'd soon be getting significantly higher scores.

Fun though... in a masochistic kind of way, lol.

SJ

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #12 on: October 07, 2007, 01:53:45 PM
I would say, the smartest person is the one who has better things to do than take some silly IQ test.  8)

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #13 on: October 07, 2007, 03:34:08 PM
however, ordered randomness did benefit mr. m's mit blackjack team. 

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #14 on: October 07, 2007, 06:16:10 PM
Ones that puzzled me are 14, 27, 34, 39.
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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #15 on: October 07, 2007, 06:24:17 PM
Had a strange hunch as I clicked submit that 39 might be based on substitution.
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Reply #16 on: October 07, 2007, 06:51:17 PM
I'm certain 39 has to do with rotation.

Certain figures rotate 90 degrees to some of the others then one change in a symbols position.

Someone guess and check 'till you get the answer and then we can work backwards.
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Reply #17 on: October 07, 2007, 06:58:18 PM
Ones that puzzled me are 14, 27, 34, 39.

14, 27, and 34 are all equations.  In 14 and 27, you add the figures together and delete the lines they have in common.

In 34, one plus one is two, one plus negative 3 is negative two, and two plus negative two is.....zero--just a plain circle.  Dots inside the circle are positive, outside the circle are negative, or vice versa as long as you're consistent.

Wotgoplunk--the answer to 39 is B.  I do not know why, but I guessed until I got it.

Now I have a perfect score....hehe.  Teamwork, that's what real IQ is.

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Reply #18 on: October 07, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
that last one counts for the other half of the test - doesn't it?  i mean all the questions seems straight forward until the last one.  most of the points on this iq test are based upon it - it seems. 

I answered all the questions up to 39 and then left that one blank, and the score was 143.  When I finally guessed the right answer, the score was "above 145" according to  the computer.



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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #19 on: October 07, 2007, 07:53:05 PM
The questions in this test get gradually more difficult. The easy questions are used for those that have a low IQ, the difficult ones for those that have a high IQ.

IQ tests are optimalized in terms of accuracy for a certain IQ range.
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Reply #20 on: October 07, 2007, 08:04:26 PM
The questions in this test get gradually more difficult. The easy questions are used for those that have a low IQ, the difficult ones for those that have a high IQ.

IQ tests are optimalized in terms of accuracy for a certain IQ range.


But this one doesn't allow for a high score, it sets a ceiling. So it can't be accurate. A true IQ test would be never-ending.
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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #21 on: October 08, 2007, 12:15:22 AM
I would say, the smartest person is the one who has better things to do than take some silly IQ test.  8)

Teresa

Lol, absolutely!

But I guess it beats watching Pop Idol...

SJ

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Re: Help me with this IQ test please
Reply #22 on: October 08, 2007, 12:17:03 AM
I answered all the questions up to 39 and then left that one blank, and the score was 143.  When I finally guessed the right answer, the score was "above 145" according to  the computer.





Sounds like you'd better give up on the piano and start designing jet engines then old boy  ;D

SJ

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Reply #23 on: October 08, 2007, 12:21:11 AM
Lol, absolutely!

But I guess it beats watching Pop Idol...


What doesn't beat watching Pop Idol?  :-\
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Reply #24 on: October 08, 2007, 03:57:40 AM
Actually 145 is pretty high-ceiling for only pattern-recognition.  Anyway so I obv got 36/39 wrong because I didn't answer them, but then I guess I got one other one wrong?  Now I'm curious as to which one it was XD  It wouldn't be one of the more "difficult" line ones because I know I got those right >>  It MAY have been that infinity sign one; I remember thinking it could have been two answers, but I chose some diagonal infinity sign; is that right?


Anyway, if you want a really high-ceiling IQ test, the ones I found the nastiest are:

Test for Exceptional Intelligence (although it requires extremely high-level mathematics, so I feel it is slightly biased, although it is infamous for having the most difficult question ever for showing up on an IQ test :P), Logima Strictica, The Rottus Test, Nemesis, Titan Test, Images of Shock, Final Test and Space/Time/Hyperspace.


For instance, here is a 200+ IQ test (if you can get like 93% of these questions correctly, your IQ percentile is .000000001%, meaning 1 in a billion):

https://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/titan.html


Anyone who thought the one previously linked was difficult should prepare to throw up.



Again though, the most insanely difficult IQ test is undoubtedly the Test for Exceptional Intelligence, which is currently only available through the International High-IQ Society.  The average number of questions answered correctly was something like 1.7 out of 25, and one person spent three years on it to get a 22/25.  The average score of a Ph. D. mathematician/astrophysicist is 11.5 or something close to that.  The ceiling goes to 225, although if it were a timed test that you could only take once it would be something like a 350 ceiling.

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Reply #25 on: October 08, 2007, 05:51:43 AM
I only got 105. And I'm sure that I have a higher IQ than that. I also say abolish these kind of tests. They only test one aspect of the IQ, there are so many others.
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Reply #26 on: October 08, 2007, 07:24:52 AM
Actually 145 is pretty high-ceiling for only pattern-recognition.  Anyway so I obv got 36/39 wrong because I didn't answer them, but then I guess I got one other one wrong?  Now I'm curious as to which one it was XD  It wouldn't be one of the more "difficult" line ones because I know I got those right >>  It MAY have been that infinity sign one; I remember thinking it could have been two answers, but I chose some diagonal infinity sign; is that right?



Nope, it's the vertical infinity sign.

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Reply #27 on: October 08, 2007, 07:26:40 AM
Sounds like you'd better give up on the piano and start designing jet engines then old boy  ;D

SJ


LOL, thank you, Steve.....unfortunately, I achieved those scores after revisiting the test 5 times and consulting with two other people. 

However, persistence and teamwork are evidence of a high IQ IMO.  Haha.

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Reply #28 on: October 08, 2007, 04:02:50 PM
What doesn't beat watching Pop Idol?  :-\

Back, sack and crack?  :o

 ;D

Id take 30 mins of Cowell over that ANYDAY. Which isnt saying much, lol.

SJ

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Reply #29 on: October 08, 2007, 04:03:58 PM
LOL, thank you, Steve.....unfortunately, I achieved those scores after revisiting the test 5 times and consulting with two other people. 

However, persistence and teamwork are evidence of a high IQ IMO.  Haha.

Absolutely!  ;D

As those very annoying people like to say... there is no 'i' in team!

SJ

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Reply #30 on: October 09, 2007, 12:09:40 AM
I only got 105. And I'm sure that I have a higher IQ than that. I also say abolish these kind of tests. They only test one aspect of the IQ, there are so many others.

Don't feel bad.  My first time, the time ran out and I got 110.   But after spending more time with it, I got 130, and when I got a friend's help I got 143.

Basically, as soon as someone explains one of those patterns to you, it seems really easy.  Which is why the tests are rubbish.  Anyone could understand the answers, it's just a matter of if you happen to see it right away or not.

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Re: We still need number 39!!
Reply #31 on: October 11, 2007, 10:08:03 AM
I don't feel bad, because I don't trust internet IQ tests. I did rush through it though, massively. I only took about 20 minutes of the allocated time, because if I don't get something immediately or within 5 minutes of thinking it over, with these type of questions, then there is very little chance that I will be able to get it at all.

Even with all the explanations it still doesn't really make sense.
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Reply #32 on: October 16, 2007, 02:09:07 AM
Had a strange hunch as I clicked submit that 39 might be based on substitution.

It is. [Row across, Column down]

1. Change X to O, O to triangle, triangle to X
2. Scroll each row to the right.
3. Scroll the first column down

[Where 'scroll' obviously wraps 3 back to 1]

If you spot, first column of first square is,

X
T
X

2nd column of 2nd square is

. O .
. X .
. O .

3rd of 3rd square is

. . T
. . O
. . T

You might have spotted 1.

This, by itself means it's either A or B because the 3rd row is

. . O
. . O
. . X

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Next consider 3rd square down, the 2nd column is

. X .
. O .
. X .

It becomes

. . O
. . T
. . O

in the middle row

and thus for the answer square it's row 1
which we first substitute

T
X
T

and scroll down [step 3 above] to get :-

T
T
X

Which again gives us A or B.

Finally, a similar process for the remaining column should give you B for the final answer [which we know anyway] but :-

2nd square, first column [no need to bother looking at 3rd column first square]

X . .
O . .
T . .

becomes

. O .
. T .
. X .

for our answer square. Thus B is the answer.

E&OE, it's late, but I think it's right more or less.

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Reply #33 on: October 16, 2007, 02:34:52 AM
It is. [Row across, Column down]

1. Change X to O, O to triangle, triangle to X
2. Scroll each row to the right.
3. Scroll the first column down

[Where 'scroll' obviously wraps 3 back to 1]

If you spot, first column of first square is,

X
T
X

2nd column of 2nd square is

. O .
. X .
. O .

3rd of 3rd square is

. . T
. . O
. . T

You might have spotted 1.

This, by itself means it's either A or B because the 3rd row is

. . O
. . O
. . X

-------------

Next consider 3rd square down, the 2nd column is

. X .
. O .
. X .

It becomes

. . O
. . T
. . O

in the middle row

and thus for the answer square it's row 1
which we first substitute

T
X
T

and scroll down [step 3 above] to get :-

T
T
X

Which again gives us A or B.

Finally, a similar process for the remaining column should give you B for the final answer [which we know anyway] but :-

2nd square, first column [no need to bother looking at 3rd column first square]

X . .
O . .
T . .

becomes

. O .
. T .
. X .

for our answer square. Thus B is the answer.

E&OE, it's late, but I think it's right more or less.

WOW!!  You just earned my respect.  That is an insane pattern.
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