Dear Electrodoc......

[thalberg]

What do you think of L-Arginine and its budding use as the "magic bullet" for cardiovascular issues?

(This research won the Nobel Prize, so folks can't put it down too much)

[pianistimo]

i can't help but ask another question, too.  is aspirin out now?  and what about ice cream.  can you eat it every day and then just get some l-arginine?  cool.  just kidding, of course.  but, seriously - what about the basic recipie for a heart attack?  butter, ice-cream, no exercise, no sex.  as i see it - besides exercise - sex is the recharger of people's hearts.  there's some extra electrical currents that get zapped into you.  *nobel peace prize, now.

here's what bbc says:  (albeit 'gentle sex' and not the kind that kills you)
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1044898.stm

btw, it also doubles as a magic bullet.  of course, there does sound merit in opening the clogged arteries quickly.  i suppose that once a person is at risk for heart attack - getting some kind of treatment that works is important.  i hear that around PA - you only get this kind of treatment during the week and that weekends are a bad time to get a heart attack.  so don't stress yourself on the weekend. 

ps according to tao - an active and satisfactory sex life is basically your best life insurance plan.

[thalbergmad]

there's some extra electrical currents that get zapped into you. 

Yeh, i think its called sperm. Honestly woman you are sex mad.

From personal experience (which prometheus advises me is pointless), i swear that creatine works wonders for improvement of strength and cardiovascular. I think that might have L-Arginine in it.

But pianistimo is right, what ever happened to the good old aspirin. Probably just as effective as any of those products with flashy names and absurd prices.

So, the secret is to cycle, screw, eat ice cream and take aspirin.

That is all there is to it.

Thal

[soliloquy]

What happens if you don't like icecream?

[thalbergmad]

I can think of alternative, but best not to post.

Thal

[electrodoc]

Dear Thalberg

My apologies for taking so long to reply. Since retruning from holiday I have been very busy catching on work.  Unfortunately I am unable to give a simple answer to your question because I think it very unwise to make generalisations. Over the years many things have been hailed as the new miracle and later have turned out to be disappointing. Sure, Argenine, Creatinine, Aspirin, and many other things have their uses when applied in the right circumstances.

Everyone's chemistry and metabolism is different. Rather than take supplements on the basis of symptoms we wopuld do better to consider causes. What is going on with the body chemistry and why is out of balance? This is, in my humble opinion a better approach than dosing up with ofetn unecessary or even wrong supplements.

Let us take an example - that of aspirin to thing the blood. When the zeta potential of the blood cells changes the cells clump together making the blood more "sticky". Debris is deposited on the walls of the capillaries and the become both narrowed and less elastic. This has the consequences that the heart has to pump harder to push the blood around the body. It is know that aspirin can be used to thin the blood but at the risk of possible problems with clotting. Although the use of aspirin in the short tem may be expedient the better long term solution woul be to examine the body chemistry to find out why the zeta potential has changed and then by using appropriate diet, exercise, correct supplementation etc. to try to bring things back to normal thereby lessening the need for aspirin.

Sorry if this does not answer your question but as I say people are individuals and need different solutions for their problems.

Best wishes

electrodoc

[thalberg]

Interesting.  Thanks for you answer.  I'd like to find out more about what you do and how you help people.