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Offline pianovirus

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Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
on: October 14, 2007, 05:46:25 PM
Today I have dabbled a bit with Godowsky's transcription of the moment musical No. 3, which is really nice with its contrapunctic flavour (there's a video of Grante playing it on Youtube).

Do you guys know any other interesting transcriptions of Schubert piano music (...and could share the sheet music?), for example:
Leschetizky: Moment Musical  No. 3
Ornstein: Moment musical No. ?

Mr Natsui lists on his page that there are Liszt transcriptions of both sets of Impromptus as well as of the Moment Musicaux. I can hardly believe this, these would certainly be more popular if really existing, I guess....  ???

So, thal and other folks, can you share some insights (and scores)? That would be great...  ;D
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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #1 on: October 14, 2007, 06:20:12 PM
Here are some more pieces that sound interesting (other suggestions welcome!).
I would be particularly interested in the sheets for Brahms, Buelow, Czerny, Thalberg, Zadora (but also in others, and especially stuff that I'm not aware so far).

Backhaus: Military march
Brahms: Impromptu Eb D 899/2 (left hand)
Busoni: Deutsche Tanze (??)
Hans von Buelow: Impromptu Gb D 899/3
Carl Czerny: Variationen über den beliebten Wiener Trauerwalzer von Fr. Schubert op. 12
Sigismund Thalberg: Fantasie sur des Mélodies de Fr. Schubert op. 57, Nr. 5
Liszt: Soirees de Vienne
Liszt: Melodies hongroises (on Schubert's Divertissement a la hongroise)
Liszt: Marches (on Schubert's Marches op. 40 and op. 121)
Scharwenka: Impromptu a la hongroise and March op. 54
Schulhof: Ecossaises
Schulhof: Landler
Ronald Stevenson: Ecossaises
Zadora: Fantasiestück über Schuberts Fantasie f-Moll D 934





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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #2 on: October 14, 2007, 08:06:53 PM
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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #3 on: October 14, 2007, 08:32:19 PM
Not sure what Busoni one you are after.

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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #4 on: October 14, 2007, 08:38:51 PM
Zadora, Stevenson,  Backhaus & Ornstein all copyrighted.

Got one of the Schuloffs but it is a private scan, aint got the bulow.

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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #5 on: October 14, 2007, 08:47:42 PM
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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #6 on: October 14, 2007, 08:59:30 PM
Schubert was one of the most popular composers with transcribers, as his beautiful melodies are just crying out for piano conversion.

It would not surprise me if 80-90% of his works have been treated thus. Definately all of the symphonies have been.

My fave would be the Liszt version of Der Muller un der Bach, played by Volodos of course.

Huge subject, deserving of an entire forum.

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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #7 on: October 14, 2007, 09:34:56 PM
thal, thanks so much!
I'll dedicate my Schubert-X dabbling to you when I can upload something (well, this might be more a blame than an honour, depending on my playing...  ;D ).

Looking at op. 90/1, the Schubert-Liszt Impromptus seem to be only "normal" editions. There are some passages where Liszt adds an own voice for notes that were only noted as accompaniment by Schubert. But these are very minor changes. I guess it will be the same with the other Impromptus.

The Leschetiky also comes with only slight modifications to the original Moment Musical. (The Godowsky in contrast is a huge departure from the original

The Brahms is a (almost) literal change of left and right hand, similar to the Wuhrer edition of the Chopin etudes, for example.

I agree with the popularity of Schubert among transcribers, but the bulk of the transcription work seems to have been done on the Lieder. I was wondering if there are any interesting transcriptions/paraphrases of his original solo piano works around, but it looks like the Godowsky is by far the most interesting.

Have you seen/heard any of the stuff you mentioned in copyrighted? Is it worth buying?

Again, thanks a lot!!!
-Tobias

P.S. The Czerny variations op. 12 on the Waltz are a good piece... I mentioned the Lisitsa video on Youtube in another thread, it's worth watching.
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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #8 on: October 14, 2007, 10:07:38 PM
Yes, most are based on the lieder and the most interesting are Godowsky in my humble opinion, albeit not all appeal to me due to his rather strange but unique theme weaving.

I have played the little Leschetizsky one, but the Zadora is straight forward, the ornstein full of 10ths and i have not really looked at the rest.

Any attempts at messing with his solo works are heretical and the Brahms and Liszt  only detract from the originals and add nothing. Pretty pointless, but some might prefer Liszts attempts to make the Wanderer at little more orchestral.

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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 01:39:50 AM
The  Impromptus

Thal

These files actually have four Impromptus within. Also, one of the Impromptus overlaps into the next file, so I've taken the liberty to re-organize them correctly.

Thanks for these. ;D

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Re: Transcriptions of Schubert piano pieces
Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 07:03:43 PM
Well done that man.

Nothing worse than bad organisation.

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