for the record, i've never studied these pieces before. but that shouldn't make any difference. for me at least it's more about focusing my practice and injecting a little urgency rather than 'winning'. in the duel i just did i'd never studied the piece before and the others had but it didn't seem to make a huge difference. the most important thing was that i learned the piece within (kind of ) a deadline and was able to post up a recording of it.anyway, these are the 2 pieces i'd like to learn. if anyone wants to learn/relearn them at the same time and post a recording on dec 1st then please let me know!edd