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Offline rlefebvr

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Moonlight Sonata Allegretto Jazzy!!!
on: April 20, 2004, 07:59:54 AM
Anybody else feel that Beethoven's Sonata Op27 Allegretto (2nd Movement) as a very jazzy feel to it. Never paid much attention to it before tonight.
Just wondering if it's just me needing sleep or if I am on the mark
On another note, the third movement is simply insane. Feels so out of control and yet it's not. Freaking Beethoven.
No whimpy Chopin music in there.  :P :P :P ;)

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Offline comme_le_vent

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Re: Moonlight Sonata Allegretto Jazzy!!!
Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 05:38:50 PM
yes the rhythmic phrasing is slightly jazzy now that i come to think of it, but its nothing compared to the swingin 2nd mvt of his last sonata - probably the most jazzy piece written before ragtime or anythin like that.

and whilst i do agree that the finale is rather insane and totally unwimpy.
i think you should go and listen to some more chopin - namely the op10/4, 10/12, 25/11 and the final prelude in d minor, wimpy? - methinks not.
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Offline Antnee

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Re: Moonlight Sonata Allegretto Jazzy!!!
Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 10:24:07 PM
Yeah...

The last movement of Beethoven's last sonata is very jazzy. And I agree with comme_le_vent. Chopin was surely not a wimp. He wrote alot of thundering passionate music, butevery not always had a purpose, like his delicate pieces.

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Re: Moonlight Sonata Allegretto Jazzy!!!
Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 11:38:02 PM
Firstly, the 3rd movement is not the allegreto, it's the Presto agitato.

Other than that, Liszt put it best:

the second movement is "a flower between two chasms". ;)

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Re: Moonlight Sonata Allegretto Jazzy!!!
Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 04:22:01 AM
"Anybody else feel that Beethoven's Sonata Op27 Allegretto (2nd Movement) as a very jazzy feel to it."

No.  Okay, sorta.  But not anymore.

By sorta, when I used to play it that way.

And not anymore, because I doesn't sound right that way.

And about Op.111 finale:  Yes, the most jazzy before jazz.  Yes, not only was he the greatest but he also invented Jazz! ;)  Jazz is German invention.  Not lousy American.
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