Recording from Youtube?

[Bob]

I see those links for youtube things.  I can see them at school.  Is there a way to download them or just record them?

Does it take a lot of computing power?  Does it turn into a whooping huge file aftward?

Is it even possible?

[ilikepie]

I personally use vixy.net for downloads every now and then(assuming it isn't busy).
There are a lot of other sites and options(plugins for firefox etc) you can try and compare.
They aren't really huge files as they are compressed in youtube so... go ahead and try.

[retrouvailles]

Get a plug-in called Video Downloader for Mozilla Firefox. It saves them as .flv files to your computer. You can play these with an .flv player, which isn't too hard to find online. You can convert .flv files to .avi or whatever you want with various video converters you can find online. Good luck find one that's freeware, though. You could always look for keygens or cracks on the internet for shareware programs, too.

[cygnusdei]

C:\Documents and Settings\Pianostreet\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

Assuming your user name = Pianostreet

[retrouvailles]

C:\Documents and Settings\Pianostreet\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

Assuming your user name = Pianostreet

Directory locations are different from operating system to operating system.

In Vista:

C:\Users\Pianostreet\AppData\Local\Temp

[quantum]

Basically what they are saying above is to search your browser cache directory for the flash  video files. 

[Bob]

I think I found them.  What do you do with them then?  The end with .tmp

Open them with windows media player or IE?  It's not letting me open them since they're being used so I'm closing IE.   

I suppose it would be a lot more work to make those into a DVD?

[Bob]

It's not letting me copy them either. 

As soon as I close IE, the file disappears.

Hmm....

[Bob]

The files starts off fla   and has a lot more kb's than the others.

As soon as I move to a different page or close IE, the file disappears.  I can't copy or rename it.

[anodibu]

Use this site:

https://www.downloader9.com/

[Bob]

Ok, thanks.  I see you have to download a program to view it.  Can you get it converted into something Windows Media Player might play?  Something easily transferable and accessible without having to have a specific program?

Or Quicktime too, instead of WMP.

[Bob]

May have just answered my own question...

https://www.saveyoutube.com/youtube-flv-player-converter.htm

[Bob]

Hmmm... You're still kind of stuck using that downloader9 website though.  If that fails, you're stuck.  Or is that just how it is?  There's no way to copy it straight off the youtube site without using another site like that?

[gerryjay]

 hey bob!
 i don't want to bother you but isn't this procedure illegal?
 just wondering...

[Bob]

Is it?  I'm talking about the home movie ones.  Someone sitting down playing something on their own at the piano.  That's not illegal is it?  I can't be if it's their original work.  I could understand a broadcast performance though.  I was wondering about some of them, if it's even legal for those to be up there.

I can do the download and view with the flv player thing, but is there a way or website that will convert it over to something very generic like wmp or quicktime?

[gerryjay]

 the home videos are probably free but the others (although so cool) shouldn't be there as you said.
 i have a friend that deals with all kind of converter programs and video editing. i will try to contact him and see if he have something for you.

[Bob]

Hmm... Thinking about it more now, I did notice some of the home movie type videos have commercial music in the background.  I was thinking that's probably illegal.  I wonder if it's legal just to view that then?  Who's at fault for breaking copyright law there?  The viewer or the person who posted it?

Then I'm wondering who actually posted the video.  Even if it appears homemade, maybe someone else got a hold of it and posted it.

I'd still like to know how to capture this stuff.  Some of it looks useful for teaching.  Play a short clip of someone playing an unusual instrument for a classroom maybe.  Much easier if that's on DVD though.  Still... then I'd be broadcasting that to a classroom of people.  Even forcing them to watch if I'm the teacher.  Or as a public school teacher, forcing a group of kids to watch when they're forced to be in school by the state.  It's never easy.

Is there a way to buy things then legally that appear on youtube?  A service that puts it all together for you maybe?

And then I remember professors in college with the "I'm not supposed to have this recording, but listen to this example..."  Or the ones playing clips off tv or from movies.  Or all the articles they just photocopied and gave us.  That can't be legal either.  Who was I to say anything though as a student?

Does anyone know about this?  I mean in teaching I've gone searching for copyright info, trying to do the right thing.  It just gets nuts.  I get responses like, "I'm not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice, but... " or "It's not technically legal, but this is what everyone does anyway..."  It's come up in several discussions in the band, choir, and general music worlds I've visited.  It never gets resolved either.  So frustrating.  "If you want to really be on the safe side, just buy individual copies of the material for every student at your school...."  Yeah, right.  Or you don't buy it at all, but even the composers aren't promoting that idea.  I've had several say they would rather have teacher fudge things and get their music out there then have nobody buy due to copyright worries.

Where do you go for solid copyright information?

[Bob]

No more ideas about downloading those youtube things straight into something that plays on wmp or quicktime?  Or is flv the new standard thing?  Is there a standard flashplayer like wmp is for things?

[counterpoint]

The GOM-Player is a very good mediaplayer, that can play avi, wmv, mpg and flv

and it's FREE!

www.gomplayer.com

[Bob]

Does it convert those flv files to something wmp can do though?

[prometheus]

I use gom player to watch live Starcraft on the korean tv.

I like BSplayer a lot more.

[arensky]

Where do you go for solid copyright information?

Here's a good place if you're in the the USA 

https://www.copyright.gov/


Regarding distribution of photocopies for educational purposes  and "fair use" I've always heard a lot of differing information too. If you search this site you may find out what the real story is.

[term]

um, people all over the world have gb over gb of music, videos etc, and you bother about some downloaded youtube videos?^^

even in a more rigid copyright system like in the usa, i wouldn't expect problems with just downloading non-copyrighted videos with copryrighted material in it (i.e. just some music in the background). If that's forbidden you should really start to kick your lawmaker's ass.
And the rest of the videos...who cares. Who here has not already downloaded many of the piano vids up there? 

Is there a standard flashplayer like wmp is for things?

The riva flv player.
I also use the video downloader, works perfectly, and is very fast. There was an older version where you had to specify the file extension (.flv).